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  # 1392086 22-Sep-2015 17:16
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jmh:
ylin169: Hi, i am a graduated student from UoA with Bachelor degree of Cs, and also have CCNA,CCNP, and CCIE
currently iam looking for a entry level network or IT/help desk job, because i dont have any job experience so i just keep getting rejected by an email after so many Cv i have sent XD...
 
so i dont know where or how to get it start in this area, i am so confused right now, any advice for a graduated student ?

Thanks
Adam 


I'm guessing there are hundreds of you out there right now.  What is it that sets you apart from everyone else?  My own experience is that those who do well have very clear interpersonal and communication skills.  Those of us on the business end get sick of techies who can't hold down a conversation or look the girls in the eye.  Someone who can communicate clearly and impart technical info to non-techie people without upsetting them is a god send.  So, have you got those skills or can you demonstrate them?  Maybe you can get a temporary people-focused job that shows how great you are at communicating with people (e.g. sales or customer service).  That would shine out to me, above all the other techs who only know how to do face-time with a computer screen.   No offense to anyone here!  

Other skills you might have are creative/artistic, sector knowledge or interest (e.g love dogs/cat/forex), language skills (e.g. English, French, Hindi etc), office experience.  How can you make the most of these to stand out from the crowd?





Yes Thats correct, communication skills are very important, Cv can get you a interview but communication skills can let you pass it, but i dont have much people to talk around, so sometime, i just talk to myself, and "What is it that sets you apart from everyone else?", thats a really good question.

Thanks

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  # 1392125 22-Sep-2015 18:23
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ylin169:
jmh:
ylin169: Hi, i am a graduated student from UoA with Bachelor degree of Cs, and also have CCNA,CCNP, and CCIE
currently iam looking for a entry level network or IT/help desk job, because i dont have any job experience so i just keep getting rejected by an email after so many Cv i have sent XD...
 
so i dont know where or how to get it start in this area, i am so confused right now, any advice for a graduated student ?

Thanks
Adam 


I'm guessing there are hundreds of you out there right now.  What is it that sets you apart from everyone else?  My own experience is that those who do well have very clear interpersonal and communication skills.  Those of us on the business end get sick of techies who can't hold down a conversation or look the girls in the eye.  Someone who can communicate clearly and impart technical info to non-techie people without upsetting them is a god send.  So, have you got those skills or can you demonstrate them?  Maybe you can get a temporary people-focused job that shows how great you are at communicating with people (e.g. sales or customer service).  That would shine out to me, above all the other techs who only know how to do face-time with a computer screen.   No offense to anyone here!  

Other skills you might have are creative/artistic, sector knowledge or interest (e.g love dogs/cat/forex), language skills (e.g. English, French, Hindi etc), office experience.  How can you make the most of these to stand out from the crowd?





Yes Thats correct, communication skills are very important, Cv can get you a interview but communication skills can let you pass it, but i dont have much people to talk around, so sometime, i just talk to myself, and "What is it that sets you apart from everyone else?", thats a really good question.

Thanks


Mate, while you're looking for work I would suggest trying to find part time work in the hospitality industry (cafe, fastfood, restaurant) where you will be around work makes (girls and guys) and customers all the time - this way you are constantly talking and helping other people, trying to figure out what they want and converting that into the restaurants system.  Additionally, what it sounds like you need is some banter skills, banter is when you are able to hold a meaningless but enjoyable conversation with someone you don't know very well, regardless of gender, ethnicity and age.  Banter is where you talk about what you got up to in the weekend, what your plans are for the following weekend, what rugby team do you follow etc - this is pretty important because being able to chat about your hobbies and life experiences in a positive way will make people like you - but even more important is you listening and being excited about the other persons plans or life experiences.

It may seem like a waste of time, but the goal of this activitiy is so you can pick up the phone and call a manager at these IT firms and have a chat to him/her about any advice they can share, where you think you could improve and what jobs are out there.  If they like you, they will share what information they can which will bring leads to good jobs that are not advertised on Seek.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 




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  # 1392130 22-Sep-2015 18:34
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macuser: Mate, while you're looking for work I would suggest trying to find part time work in the hospitality industry (cafe, fastfood, restaurant) where you will be around work makes (girls and guys) and customers all the time - this way you are constantly talking and helping other people, trying to figure out what they want and converting that into the restaurants system.  Additionally, what it sounds like you need is some banter skills, banter is when you are able to hold a meaningless but enjoyable conversation with someone you don't know very well, regardless of gender, ethnicity and age.  Banter is where you talk about what you got up to in the weekend, what your plans are for the following weekend, what rugby team do you follow etc - this is pretty important because being able to chat about your hobbies and life experiences in a positive way will make people like you - but even more important is you listening and being excited about the other persons plans or life experiences.

It may seem like a waste of time, but the goal of this activitiy is so you can pick up the phone and call a manager at these IT firms and have a chat to him/her about any advice they can share, where you think you could improve and what jobs are out there.  If they like you, they will share what information they can which will bring leads to good jobs that are not advertised on Seek.

       


So . i can call like Hays, dimensiondata, beyond, to talk about the job right ?

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