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  Reply # 1799120 13-Jun-2017 09:38
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I used to work for crown furniture movers in Auckland as a summer job while at uni 15 years ago.  We regularly worked from 6.30 to 6ish often 6 days a week.  And sometimes there would be special weekend jobs where we would have to move an office starting on Friday after work and finishing Sunday evening often working 15-20 hours straight if not more.

 

Pay was around $14 an hour (15 years ago), I don't think I got overtime unless it was Sunday work.

 

 

 

Work week was between 60 and 80 hours a week.  A couple of guys went straight from that to a bouncer job in the evenings.

 

Was a great way of losing weight my first summer dropped 30 kg in 3 months.  

 

I couldn't do it now


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  Reply # 1799161 13-Jun-2017 10:21
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A Person In Charge of a Business or Undertaking (PICBU) has significant responsibilities under the Health and Safety at Work Act. 

 

This includes managing hazards on the sites they are responsible for - this responsibility applies to staff, customers, visitors and contractors

 

A PICBU who engages a contractor also takes on a share of the responsibility for health and safety in relation to the work the contractor does for them.

 

A business who lets someone routinely work 80 hour weeks (as a contractor or as an employee) is at risk.

 

Overworking is relevant in two ways.  Firstly stress and fatigue are recognised as direct hazards, because they  can cause harm.  Secondly tired people make more mistakes so tiredness can exacerbate other hazards.

 

Under the new legislation companies, directors and company 'officers' are personally liable, with ruinous fines and prison terms possible.  Individual employees are also theoretically personally liable.





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  Reply # 1799221 13-Jun-2017 11:38
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Hmm someone asks a simple question and GZ starts over analysing their life and how many spare hours they will have left in a week.......

 

OP you mention labour type work, I am guessing you are in the building industry... Have you tried approaching some of the big commercial construction companies as I am sure they would love someone who is willing to put in long hours to get customers homes built.

 

 

 

Good luck with your search!


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  Reply # 1799483 13-Jun-2017 15:22
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BlinkyBill:
There is no pricing advantage in this, GST isn't a 'business earning'. It is a consumer tax collected by businesses. Not collecting GST gives the impression of a lightweight Mickey-mouse type of business.

Perhaps YOU should ask an accountant about this.

 

I mean, if you have a side business outside your day job eg freelance, that earns less than 60k, and has most expenses being non-gst claimable (eg non-nz web hosting), then it kinda makes sense not to deal with GST as my accountant has recommended I do for my circumstances.

 

It's not 'mickey-mouse' if you act professionally with clients and clearly state "Not GST registered" when invoicing/quoting.





 


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  Reply # 1799499 13-Jun-2017 15:51
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chewster:

BlinkyBill:
There is no pricing advantage in this, GST isn't a 'business earning'. It is a consumer tax collected by businesses. Not collecting GST gives the impression of a lightweight Mickey-mouse type of business.

Perhaps YOU should ask an accountant about this.


I mean, if you have a side business outside your day job eg freelance, that earns less than 60k, and has most expenses being non-gst claimable (eg non-nz web hosting), then it kinda makes sense not to deal with GST as my accountant has recommended I do for my circumstances.


It's not 'mickey-mouse' if you act professionally with clients and clearly state "Not GST registered" when invoicing/quoting.


80-100 hours per week isn't a 'side business'.




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  Reply # 1805068 22-Jun-2017 10:23
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the5laws:

 

double time or time and a half on weekend

 

 

sorry, but the days of double time & overtime rates are well & truely gone, especially if being paid more than min wage

 

many work weekends and overtime , basicly for free . ie they dont get paid any extra money at all
I never get paid for extra hours I work, or weekend work, luckily thats not very often

 

$20 per hour is a good rate , I'd be interested to know what jobs you find paying that
although min wage is staring to look good compared to what I get paid ($42k year)


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  Reply # 1805294 22-Jun-2017 15:48
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1101:

the5laws:


double time or time and a half on weekend



sorry, but the days of double time & overtime rates are well & truely gone, especially if being paid more than min wage


many work weekends and overtime , basicly for free . ie they dont get paid any extra money at all
I never get paid for extra hours I work, or weekend work, luckily thats not very often


$20 per hour is a good rate , I'd be interested to know what jobs you find paying that
although min wage is staring to look good compared to what I get paid ($42k year)



What do you do?




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  Reply # 1805297 22-Jun-2017 16:05
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sonyxperiageek:
1101:

 

the5laws:

 

 

 

double time or time and a half on weekend

 

 

 

 

 

 

sorry, but the days of double time & overtime rates are well & truely gone, especially if being paid more than min wage

 

 

 

many work weekends and overtime , basicly for free . ie they dont get paid any extra money at all
I never get paid for extra hours I work, or weekend work, luckily thats not very often

 

 

 

$20 per hour is a good rate , I'd be interested to know what jobs you find paying that
although min wage is staring to look good compared to what I get paid ($42k year)

 



What do you do?

 

I am salary based and i do not get overtime even if worked. Also i do not work public holidays but an entitled to time and a half if I do. Not that i will, Its not that im not committed to the business i work for, its because they are not committed to me, Refused me up skilling and basic training that should have come with the job. Even refused internal training. But thats a gripe for another day lol.

Recently the business didnt do as well as it was supposed to. Many people put in countless hours of "Unpaid overtime" over the last year as they were bargaining on a bonus at the end of the year. Well they just got told no bonus, 2 months late!

The time i was asked to work overtime i asked if it was paid, was advised -No and i refused. Its a 2 way road, Employers will stand there taking but wont give.

 

Anyone sitting in a salary position is getting reamed. Never have i ever seen a payrise system over here anywhere or any form of employee development. Shocking country to be in the workforce, You also have the highest chance of dieing on a worksite in the first world.. 






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  Reply # 1805313 22-Jun-2017 16:50
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TimA:

 

 

 

Anyone sitting in a salary position is getting reamed. Never have i ever seen a payrise system over here anywhere or any form of employee development. Shocking country to be in the workforce, You also have the highest chance of dieing on a worksite in the first world.. 

 

 

I'm on salary and I don't feel that way.  But my employer is very good to me.  My contract specifies 37.5 hours per week.  Work is very chunky so I do work more hours some weeks.

 

True about the fatalities though and 90% of them are males.





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