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  #2510051 22-Jun-2020 21:04
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Sorry to be a bummer, but I've been laid off / made redundant a number of times, and it has made me jaded.

I tend to be highly paid, so I average about 1 job per 100 job applications. I typically try to craft each CV to each job needs, at least a little.

I've seen LinkedIn work, but only for double hitters: people who are well connected *and* the top 10% of their jobs.

I like to think I'm the latter, but not the former, so it's never worked for me.

It's a cliche, but the keys to employment is luck, flexibility, persistence, and never stop learning new skills.

A lesson I've learned after some decades is the following: Even though it's hard but be graceful when you don't get a job, I found I few kinds words to a recruitment agent in the final conversation sometimes pay dividends later.

As usual, don't quit your current job until you done a thorough Google search of the company. I usually look for articles of incorporation to see if they have aliases, how long they've been around,to see if they're based in an office, or out of someone's home. It's always worth trying to visit the office unannounced and anonymously to hopefully see the workspace beforehand, even if it just means sticking your head out of an elevator briefly.

Best of luck



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  #2510059 22-Jun-2020 21:17
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Thanks for the tips :) I forgot to add, what is Trademe Jobs like as well? Anyone ever used it?


 
 
 
 


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  #2510175 23-Jun-2020 07:32
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Trademe is new on the block. I found they are repeat Seek ads usually, but it's no cost for you and you never know.

You should probably google "largest employer" and your city name, to find out who's the largest employer.

Then find you local largest employer website.

I've never gotten a job this way, because if an employer advertises only on their website, without using a recruiter or web site, it means they are advertising because they are legally required to. In other words, they are restructuring the organization, and probably have an internal candidate they want to hire, and are just going through the minimally legally required motions.

However your mileage may vary.

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  #2512515 25-Jun-2020 20:55
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The two keys for job hunting (IMO) is taking a (1) taking an objective and reasonable view on what skills you have to offer and how much you are worth and (2) not to take rejections personally and not to let them deflate you.

 

I won't delve too deeply into (1) because I think most people are at the end of the day there/thereabouts when it comes to understanding what you have got to offer and how much you are worth. Those who have truly "out there" views just don't get hired.

 

On (2) understand that a lot of times as an external applicant unknown to the company, you are already streets behind and nothing you do will make any difference. I've been a contractor and employee across a lot of large corporate and government departments, rightly or wrongly, it is frequently obvious how much being known to the hiring manager or at least being an employee already makes a decisive difference as to your likelihood of getting the job. People are risk adverse. There are signs that decent employers will sometimes give out when they are just accepting applications just to go through the motions, e.g. a JD that requires an excessive level of experience for the job, almost unheard of combinations of skills/attributes, and the like. You might want to just not waste time on very obvious examples of these. Government departments are particularly bad for it as they are often under collective bargaining obligations to try their level best to re-deploy people whilst also having to advertise under the State Sector Act.

 

But also understand that you can't necessarily always pick out which opportunities are genuine. All one can do is properly read job ads, JDs, and then seriously assess whether you have most of the essential skills required. Then do your best to tailor/craft the best application that you can present, maybe get an interview, and put your best foot forward. Rejections are part of the game and @quickymart since you are just looking at fairly middling/average roles that aren't really massively specialised, you will be one amongst many applicants in this climate. Sometimes even the best/most suitable people get bypassed. It is what it is -- don't let it deflate you. If you are constantly getting rejections, I do recommend getting some professional help in terms of getting your CV checked and improved.

 

 




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  #2513217 26-Jun-2020 19:12
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Thanks for the advice, very helpful. Not so much rejections - just hardly anything going! I applied for something the other night via Seek, first job application in 3 months, from memory. But I reckon about 98% of that is due to the coronavirus situation; no one is hiring and there are way more applicants than there were in, say, January (for example). But I'll keep plugging away.

 

I hope my online studies will pay dividends, learning a new skill never hurt.


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  #2513493 27-Jun-2020 04:13
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Have you got a CV & linkedin page you would be willing to post up here? It may not be bad for the community here to have a look over it and offer any pointers.




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  #2520754 10-Jul-2020 13:37
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I'm a bit wary of doing this, sorry - I know my current employer reads this site on occasion.

 

Having said that, I just applied for a role using LinkedIn for the first time. Their system is a bit different to Seek (no change to submit a cover letter, for example) but all I can do is try.


 
 
 
 




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  #2522508 13-Jul-2020 22:33
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I know, but I'm still going to keep looking anyway - no harm in looking around, and you never know what might happen. I just need to keep going.




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  #2532559 1-Aug-2020 09:28
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Update, still looking, and yes I realise it's probably going to get harder but I need to keep going.

 

I saw this on Linkedin the other night, title sounds like a cruisy work from home role, but is description actually for an influencer role? I'd value a second opinion here :)

 

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/1932179854/

 

 


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  #2532941 1-Aug-2020 23:32
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quickymart:

Update, still looking, and yes I realise it's probably going to get harder but I need to keep going.


I saw this on Linkedin the other night, title sounds like a cruisy work from home role, but is description actually for an influencer role? I'd value a second opinion here :)


https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/1932179854/


 



Doesn’t look like a legitimate job advertisement.



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  #2533010 2-Aug-2020 11:02
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Worth reporting? I would have thought an outfit like Linkedin would have gone through checks before posting a vacancy?


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  #2533012 2-Aug-2020 11:06
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quickymart:

 

Worth reporting? I would have thought an outfit like Linkedin would have gone through checks before posting a vacancy?

 

 

Yes. It does look dodgy.





 

 

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