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  Reply # 894888 12-Sep-2013 19:13
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I would love to know where the idea that the 5c was going to be cheap came from. Because it has a c? That must be messing with Apple's marketing and publicity department! My dad was also going on about how expensive it was and I tried to explain Apple never said it was cheap... The power of the media eh?

My prediction is that the NZ 5c model will be $859 for the 15 GB version.

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  Reply # 894892 12-Sep-2013 19:17
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sdav: I would love to know where the idea that the 5c was going to be cheap came from. Because it has a c? That must be messing with Apple's marketing and publicity department! My dad was also going on about how expensive it was and I tried to explain Apple never said it was cheap... The power of the media eh?

My prediction is that the NZ 5c model will be $859 for the 15 GB version.


Well for a start the media yesterday were advertising it as a cheap iphone. Plus apple have tried to defend 'plastic' in their marketing, and generally when you switch from a premium material like diamond cut anodized aluminum, to a low cost material like plastic, one would presume that it would be a cheaper device to reflect the lower build quality and older technology in it.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 894893 12-Sep-2013 19:18
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mckenndk: They only thing i like is the fingerprint Login option, could do with that on my S3 but won't be changing to apple any time soon.

Also good to note Apple are not the first to do this, Motorola did it on a previous hand set but Google obviously has not thought it a needed feature. laptop wise I have heard of many security holes in fingerprint readers.

Still no NFC.

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I don't think Apple will ever do NFC or will wait for it to be fully adopted. Can eftpos terminals that were just rolled out for tap and go cards support NFC? If not that will prove how hard it is to get adoption rates up as retailers only moved to the new eftpos terminals because the old ones would no work at all... Just like the move to digital TV. It needs to be forced on people for it to work.

iBeacons and NFC

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  Reply # 894895 12-Sep-2013 19:22
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mattwnz:
sdav: I would love to know where the idea that the 5c was going to be cheap came from. Because it has a c? That must be messing with Apple's marketing and publicity department! My dad was also going on about how expensive it was and I tried to explain Apple never said it was cheap... The power of the media eh?

My prediction is that the NZ 5c model will be $859 for the 15 GB version.


Well for a start the media yesterday were advertising it as a cheap iphone. Plus apple have tried to defend 'plastic' in their marketing, and generally when you switch from a premium material like diamond cut anodized aluminum, to a low cost material like plastic, one would presume that it would be a cheaper device to reflect the lower build quality and older technology in it.


Yeah but who would expect the difference between a plastic case and an aluminium one to be $300 - $400?

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  Reply # 894899 12-Sep-2013 19:26
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The iPhone 5C is $549 USD for the non-contract version.

Convert the currency: $680 NZD +/-
Add on GST: $782 NZD
Add on a bit extra for "extra" hassle and because "they can", and you're looking at around $899 +.

-Aidan

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  Reply # 894904 12-Sep-2013 19:37
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sdav:
mattwnz:
sdav: I would love to know where the idea that the 5c was going to be cheap came from. Because it has a c? That must be messing with Apple's marketing and publicity department! My dad was also going on about how expensive it was and I tried to explain Apple never said it was cheap... The power of the media eh?

My prediction is that the NZ 5c model will be $859 for the 15 GB version.


Well for a start the media yesterday were advertising it as a cheap iphone. Plus apple have tried to defend 'plastic' in their marketing, and generally when you switch from a premium material like diamond cut anodized aluminum, to a low cost material like plastic, one would presume that it would be a cheaper device to reflect the lower build quality and older technology in it.


Yeah but who would expect the difference between a plastic case and an aluminium one to be $300 - $400?


It is also year old technology, which is a big thing, as it potentially decreases it's iOS update life, and apps that will be supported. I learnt this the hard way when I purchased an older gen model it stopped being supported after just 1 year. Even the 4th gen ipod touch which was sold into this year doesn't support ios7. 
I think $300-$400 would be a better difference in price between the 5c and the 5s, and possibly a $200-$300 difference between the 5 and 5s. Compare it to the price difference between the samsung s3 and s4, which is around that difference.
Why else would they go to plastic, which is an inferior product, for it not to be quite a bit cheaper. Supposedly it was supposed to be a device for china, but it will be too expensive for them at that price, especially as it looks like a cheap iphone.

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  Reply # 894905 12-Sep-2013 19:50
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I think the 5c 16gb will be $900. With the 32gb being $1049 the same price as the 5s 16gb (assuming they keep the same pricing as they had with the 5). That is how the AUS and US pricing is (32gb 5c same price as 16gb 5s)

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  Reply # 894913 12-Sep-2013 19:57
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Who here is going to buy a iphone 5c?

I think it is a bit of a downgrade from a 5 in terms of it's look and build quality, although there are a few minor improvements

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  Reply # 894927 12-Sep-2013 20:27
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mattwnz: Who here is going to buy a iphone 5c?

I think it is a bit of a downgrade from a 5 in terms of it's look and build quality, although there are a few minor improvements


I wouldn't buy an Iphone5C for the price they are likely to be sold for.

I am guessing the pricing will be

4S = $649
5C = $899
5S = $1049

If I was spending $900 I'd spend $1049 to have the latest offering. However with $649 for the 4S we could see a $50 increase across the range.

As it stands I will wait for a bigger screen Iphone, but until they can make an Iphone as thin and light as a 5 with retina quality display or better we may not see this.

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  Reply # 894928 12-Sep-2013 20:28
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I don't think Apple will ever do NFC or will wait for it to be fully adopted. Can eftpos terminals that were just rolled out for tap and go cards support NFC? If not that will prove how hard it is to get adoption rates up as retailers only moved to the new eftpos terminals because the old ones would no work at all... Just like the move to digital TV. It needs to be forced on people for it to work.

iBeacons and NFC


The current Eftpos machines do support the NFC on phones, if google wallet was available in NZ it will work here.

 

The banks and telcos are currently working on a solution for NFC capable phones right now.

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  Reply # 894932 12-Sep-2013 20:33
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dickytim: 
If I was spending $900 I'd spend $1049 to have the latest offering. However with $649 for the 4S we could see a $50 increase across the range.

As it stands I will wait for a bigger screen Iphone, but until they can make an Iphone as thin and light as a 5 with retina quality display or better we may not see this.


Same. This is a 'tock' year as it is a 's' device. Next year is a 'tick' year, so we should see a case change with the iphone 6, which is an opputunity to change the screen size again, and possibly two different screen sizes. 

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  Reply # 894933 12-Sep-2013 20:33
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dickytim:
mattwnz: Who here is going to buy a iphone 5c?

I think it is a bit of a downgrade from a 5 in terms of it's look and build quality, although there are a few minor improvements


I wouldn't buy an Iphone5C for the price they are likely to be sold for.

I am guessing the pricing will be

4S = $649
5C = $899
5S = $1049

If I was spending $900 I'd spend $1049 to have the latest offering. However with $649 for the 4S we could see a $50 increase across the range.

As it stands I will wait for a bigger screen Iphone, but until they can make an Iphone as thin and light as a 5 with retina quality display or better we may not see this.


Have heard some comments that the 5c was made for the Chinese market where Apple does not have much of a foothold over the cheaper Android Handsets due to the price of them, I doubt that the price of the 5c would help them at that price as you can usually find a high end Android phone for that price or less.

Dion 

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  Reply # 894963 12-Sep-2013 21:36
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mckenndk:


I don't think Apple will ever do NFC or will wait for it to be fully adopted. Can eftpos terminals that were just rolled out for tap and go cards support NFC? If not that will prove how hard it is to get adoption rates up as retailers only moved to the new eftpos terminals because the old ones would no work at all... Just like the move to digital TV. It needs to be forced on people for it to work.

iBeacons and NFC


The current Eftpos machines do support the NFC on phones, if google wallet was available in NZ it will work here. The banks and telcos are currently working on a solution for NFC capable phones right now.

Dion


Ahh cool, thanks for that.

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  Reply # 894964 12-Sep-2013 21:37
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I'm more or less "Meh" over the whole announcement.

The reality is that for most customers, high end smartphones (by which I mean android and iOS, not so sure about windows) are essentially much of a muchness. They all offer pretty slick touch OSes, good camera and phone functionality. The market's maturing, and the upgrades are offering much less extra functionality than they did a few years ago. Honestly, does an extra megapixel on the camera really matter that much when the starting point is 8 or 13?

To my mind none of the models, be it 5C, 5S or (say) the Galaxy S4 offer much of a compelling argument to upgrade a working phone of the previous generation.


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  Reply # 894991 12-Sep-2013 22:35
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mckenndk:
dickytim:
mattwnz: Who here is going to buy a iphone 5c?

I think it is a bit of a downgrade from a 5 in terms of it's look and build quality, although there are a few minor improvements


I wouldn't buy an Iphone5C for the price they are likely to be sold for.

I am guessing the pricing will be

4S = $649
5C = $899
5S = $1049

If I was spending $900 I'd spend $1049 to have the latest offering. However with $649 for the 4S we could see a $50 increase across the range.

As it stands I will wait for a bigger screen Iphone, but until they can make an Iphone as thin and light as a 5 with retina quality display or better we may not see this.


Have heard some comments that the 5c was made for the Chinese market where Apple does not have much of a foothold over the cheaper Android Handsets due to the price of them, I doubt that the price of the 5c would help them at that price as you can usually find a high end Android phone for that price or less.

Dion 


I think that is correct. This is why I think the apple shares dived, due to the high price of the 5c. Why produce a cheap looking phone from plastic if you aren't selling it in a price range for the market that would buy it. I guess they can always reduce the price in the future, but price dropping is a bit of an admission of a mistake imho.

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