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  # 1014821 28-Mar-2014 19:55
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Yep. Office 2010 is still a very respectable office suite (if you can still buy it).

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  # 1014949 29-Mar-2014 09:37
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PJ48: I have downloaded the Word for iPad app and am feeling somewhat underwhelmed at the moment. I use Word at home and at work all the time, but the way this has been implemented on the iPad is somewhat restrictive. When hooked up to OneDrive, if you delete a document, it never disappears. It says that it is deleted but still sits there, and even if you go into OneDrive.com and empty the recycle bin, it still sits there in the Word app. They give no option for printing direct from the iPad. You cannot share a Word doc with any other apps on the iPad. You can choose to open a Word doc using the Word app, but once it is in there it is trapped! I find the interface of OneDrive really limiting compared with how Dropbox works on both a desktop and the iPad.

I was hoping to move away from using Pages on the iPad, to just natively using Word, but Pages is actually far more flexible to allow printing and sharing...


I believe most of those issues are limitations regarding IOS (things like printing, document sharing etc.) - it is that reason why I moved to the Surface Pro for most of my Office work.  I think the intent is to enable simple document editing and presentations - in this regards I think it works well.

Someone mentioned the price of the subscription - I guess it is relative.  Office 2010 cost me $400 odd for one user and I could install only on two devices (PC/Laptop).  That would give me two and a half years subscription for Office 365 and always the latest version/feature set.  If I allow family to use it the price becomes less per person - also, for $10/month more I get exchange online - which allows me to sync my email and stuff across multiple devices in near real time.





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  # 1014974 29-Mar-2014 10:39
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On a side note, did anyone find it stupidly difficult to log in with your O365 account?
When you first open the app, the card with info prompt you to buy or sign in.

Click sign in, prompts for Apple ID. sign in, does nothing. So had to go via free version and activate separately. Also had to do that for each office application.

Not going to complain too much tho, as it was free through uni ;) but still.




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  # 1015111 29-Mar-2014 17:26
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TwoSeven:
PJ48: I have downloaded the Word for iPad app and am feeling somewhat underwhelmed at the moment. I use Word at home and at work all the time, but the way this has been implemented on the iPad is somewhat restrictive. When hooked up to OneDrive, if you delete a document, it never disappears. It says that it is deleted but still sits there, and even if you go into OneDrive.com and empty the recycle bin, it still sits there in the Word app. They give no option for printing direct from the iPad. You cannot share a Word doc with any other apps on the iPad. You can choose to open a Word doc using the Word app, but once it is in there it is trapped! I find the interface of OneDrive really limiting compared with how Dropbox works on both a desktop and the iPad.

I was hoping to move away from using Pages on the iPad, to just natively using Word, but Pages is actually far more flexible to allow printing and sharing...


I believe most of those issues are limitations regarding IOS (things like printing, document sharing etc.) - it is that reason why I moved to the Surface Pro for most of my Office work.  I think the intent is to enable simple document editing and presentations - in this regards I think it works well.

Someone mentioned the price of the subscription - I guess it is relative.  Office 2010 cost me $400 odd for one user and I could install only on two devices (PC/Laptop).  That would give me two and a half years subscription for Office 365 and always the latest version/feature set.  If I allow family to use it the price becomes less per person - also, for $10/month more I get exchange online - which allows me to sync my email and stuff across multiple devices in near real time.



The iOS doesn't actually limit printing at all, nor does it limit sharing documents between apps. But MS implementation of its app does. VERY frustrating.

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  # 1015133 29-Mar-2014 18:35
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I don't see how this will be successful when Pages and Google Drive is free....

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  # 1015156 29-Mar-2014 19:51
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It will be successful because even today one of the first questions new iDevice users ask is "where do i get Office?"  

I reckon the new user market must be pretty lucrative and is still growing.

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  # 1015160 29-Mar-2014 19:58
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Yabanize: I don't see how this will be successful when Pages and Google Drive is free....


iWork suite on iOS was only made available free for the latest iPhone 5S and iPad IIRC. Business users might already have Office 365 setup in their environment with OneDrive syncing. With Office for iPad, data syncs back to OneDrive or OneDrive for business. On top of that you have a greater chance of Office for iPad documents formatting working better with real MS Office on desktop and vice versa.

Office Online is also free just like Google Docs.

Office for iPad in app purchase has been so popular in the last 48 hours at USD$99/year that Word (5), Excel (17) and PowerPoint (50) are in the top grossing list. At $99. Other apps in that top 50 list in app purchases are at $1 or $2.




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  # 1015300 30-Mar-2014 08:39
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TwoSeven:
PJ48: I have downloaded the Word for iPad app and am feeling somewhat underwhelmed at the moment. I use Word at home and at work all the time, but the way this has been implemented on the iPad is somewhat restrictive. When hooked up to OneDrive, if you delete a document, it never disappears. It says that it is deleted but still sits there, and even if you go into OneDrive.com and empty the recycle bin, it still sits there in the Word app. They give no option for printing direct from the iPad. You cannot share a Word doc with any other apps on the iPad. You can choose to open a Word doc using the Word app, but once it is in there it is trapped! I find the interface of OneDrive really limiting compared with how Dropbox works on both a desktop and the iPad.

I was hoping to move away from using Pages on the iPad, to just natively using Word, but Pages is actually far more flexible to allow printing and sharing...


I believe most of those issues are limitations regarding IOS (things like printing, document sharing etc.) - it is that reason why I moved to the Surface Pro for most of my Office work.  I think the intent is to enable simple document editing and presentations - in this regards I think it works well.

Someone mentioned the price of the subscription - I guess it is relative.  Office 2010 cost me $400 odd for one user and I could install only on two devices (PC/Laptop).  That would give me two and a half years subscription for Office 365 and always the latest version/feature set.  If I allow family to use it the price becomes less per person - also, for $10/month more I get exchange online - which allows me to sync my email and stuff across multiple devices in near real time.



Pfft... I use IMAP for my email, it synchronises my email across multiple devices for free.

Last version of Office I bought was 2008, I now run this in a VM as it does not run under OSX 10.9 well. As for the majority of stuff I do I now do that in Libre Office or Apples iWork suit of Apps.

I refuse to rent software.

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  # 1015315 30-Mar-2014 09:48
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Yabanize: I don't see how this will be successful when Pages and Google Drive is free....


I personally have a strong dislike for Office because I use Excel extensively at work and find it extremely buggy - surprisingly so. To that end I would never use it for my own personal purposes, but it would be useful to have on my personal devices for when I need to catch up on work.

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  # 1015316 30-Mar-2014 09:54
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What are the top free alternatives that work 99%?




Involuntary autocorrect in operation on mobile device. Apologies in advance.


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  # 1015426 30-Mar-2014 16:00
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Pages, Numbers, Keynote, and Evernote.

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  # 1015431 30-Mar-2014 16:18
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billgates:
Office for iPad in app purchase has been so popular in the last 48 hours at USD$99/year that Word (5), Excel (17) and PowerPoint (50) are in the top grossing list. At $99. Other apps in that top 50 list in app purchases are at $1 or $2.


At 50-100 times the price, you only need 1-2% of the sales volume to compete though.



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  # 1015791 31-Mar-2014 08:30
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joker97: What are the top free alternatives that work 99%?


I love Pages on iPad, very intuitive, but if you're looking for a solid Word editor\creator, Documents to Go Premium would be my pick. Circa $29 iirc. Not free, but a lot better than $150+ per year imo. 

Integration comes down to the app itself. If you don't see Office for iPad offering the sync options you want, that's a Microsoft issue, not an iOS limitation. Docs to Go for example will sync with DropBox, OneDrive and Google Drive. Probably others too, but those are the three I use.



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  # 1016532 1-Apr-2014 12:59
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Has this release changed anybodies attitude to buying an iPhone? 

For me it has meant that an iPad and a (cheap) Windows phone will be able to work much more closely together and will over-lap where I need them to. 

Means I'm more likely to buy an iPad, more likely to buy a Windows Phone (I like them anyway), unlikely to buy a Windows tablet because in the ways I need the iPad is now a Windows tablet. I'm almost certainly not going to buy an iPhone as any phone will now work with an iPad in the ways relevant to me. 

What you all think? 




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  # 1016969 2-Apr-2014 08:36
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crackrdbycracku: 

For me it has meant that an iPad and a (cheap) Windows phone will be able to work much more closely together and will over-lap where I need them to. 



And that overlap is solely Office? Seems very specific in light of what both devices can do, but if that's your requirement then it sounds perfectly suited to me. 

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