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  # 1360522 7-Aug-2015 09:33
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NonprayingMantis: one important part might be the "without permission from the copyright holder"  If the rights holder gives you permission to use iTunes functionality, then it's all fine.

Seeing as Apple have a pretty strong sway with the music industry record labels, it wouldn't be too hard to persuade the rights holders to make an exception for this sort of use case.

But only some iTunes functionality.  E.g. you can copy it from CD to iTunes, or download from the iTunes store, but not copy from iTunes to CD.  How about copying from iTunes to an iPod or iPhone - probably OK.  Or when I use Windows file manager to copy from my iTunes library to my Android phone - probably prohibited.

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  # 1360539 7-Aug-2015 09:59
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NonprayingMantis: one important part might be the "without permission from the copyright holder"  If the rights holder gives you permission to use iTunes functionality, then it's all fine.

Seeing as Apple have a pretty strong sway with the music industry record labels, it wouldn't be too hard to persuade the rights holders to make an exception for this sort of use case.

But only some iTunes functionality.  E.g. you can copy it from CD to iTunes, or download from the iTunes store, but not copy from iTunes to CD.  How about copying from iTunes to an iPod or iPhone - probably OK.  Or when I use Windows file manager to copy from my iTunes library to my Android phone - probably prohibited.


Everything is fine if the rights holder gives permission.

Apple has a HUGE amount of sway with the studios.  If they told the studios to put a specific exception into their EULAs for any and all iTunes use, they would probably have to do it.



 
 
 
 


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  # 1360546 7-Aug-2015 10:03
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NonprayingMantis: Everything is fine if the rights holder gives permission.

That kind of makes the original article redundant then.

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  # 1360785 7-Aug-2015 17:29
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NonprayingMantis:
andrew027: From the article: "It is now unlawful to make private copies of copyright works you own, without permission from the copyright holder – this includes format shifting from one medium to another".  I see how this obviously affects ripping a new CD from your iTunes library, but wouldn't that definition also prohibit importing tracks from a CD you bought into iTunes in the first place?


one important part might be the "without permission from the copyright holder"  If the rights holder gives you permission to use iTunes functionality, then it's all fine.

Seeing as Apple have a pretty strong sway with the music industry record labels, it wouldn't be too hard to persuade the rights holders to make an exception for this sort of use case.


Yes, as long as the original copyright gives you the right to make your own backups, you're covered. But still, how ridiculous.




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  # 1360872 7-Aug-2015 20:07
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Move to a third world country - like dotcom thought he was...

No thought is given to copyright in any third world country I've been in recently.

The whole copyright situation needs a rethink right from it's roots. It is ridiculous what companies can licence and fight and bicker about in court of law. The only winners are lawyers.

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