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# 180473 10-Sep-2015 09:51
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Bigger iPhones, smaller iPad. Now pen (sorry, pencil) input on the much bigger iPad pro and a keyboard.
I think it is just a touchscreen on the iMac and Macbooks and they have done everything he would never do.

This is not actually trolling by the way, it is just interesting to me how quickly Apple moved away from all the design queues Steve Jobs held them to.




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  # 1384793 10-Sep-2015 09:55
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Different times call for different technology. Steve Jobs was quite a while ago now, and things have changed so much since then. I would rather have died than used a touch screen windows XP machine back when those were trying to become a thing. But now look at Windows 10, I use it daily on my Surface Pro.

Some of the things he refused to use just weren't ready for use yet, and it's wise to hold off. Apple seems to like doing things whole heartedly and 'perfectly' rather than rushing to market with new features. 




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  # 1384794 10-Sep-2015 09:56
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Steve Jobs no more... it's Tim Cook here on... Get with the programme.

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  # 1384798 10-Sep-2015 09:58
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Well he was a marketer/salesman first and foremost I think. First rule would be to sell the stock on your shelves - it's the tech that works now. Don't scare the punters that there may actually be something better, bigger, smaller, faster in the future... worry about telling them why you changed your mind at a later date. 





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  # 1384827 10-Sep-2015 10:42
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A plunging demand for tablets kind of demands you do something a little different. Steve Jobs was a man with an enormous ego and talent for selling, not a god.

Now I can pay more money for a device that does less than a Surface!

Now THAT's what I call progress.

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  # 1384828 10-Sep-2015 10:44
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Pfft hardly. They're still 'premium' (read: expensive) and high quality devices, with distinctive asthetics, and design focus. Just a wee bit less dogmatic and stubborn than they used to be.

Edit: I'm firmly evoking Betteridge's law over this one.

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  # 1384895 10-Sep-2015 11:31
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Nobody wants a pencil, I mean stylus...


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  # 1384912 10-Sep-2015 11:51
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Think of it more as 'Adapting and Improving'. Much the same way as the S-Pen features in the Pencil, Force Touch, which has been in the Android API since Eclair and the minimovie feature (Live photos) in photos (a la HTC Zoe).

Edit: Wrong Android version quoted.




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tchart: Nobody wants a pencil, I mean stylus...



This is at least partly out of context, as Jobs was referring to a device that required a stylus as the primary input method. The iPad Pro does not require it, it's an optional extra for specialised tasks.

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  # 1385018 10-Sep-2015 14:47
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josephhinvest:
tchart: Nobody wants a pencil, I mean stylus...



This is at least partly out of context, as Jobs was referring to a device that required a stylus as the primary input method. The iPad Pro does not require it, it's an optional extra for specialised tasks.

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It was said by His Jobness in reference to the Samsung Galaxy Note, for which the stylus was an optional extra for specialized tasks, not at all required for operation. 




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  # 1385029 10-Sep-2015 15:01
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qyiet:
josephhinvest:
tchart: Nobody wants a pencil, I mean stylus...



This is at least partly out of context, as Jobs was referring to a device that required a stylus as the primary input method. The iPad Pro does not require it, it's an optional extra for specialised tasks.

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It was said by His Jobness in reference to the Samsung Galaxy Note, for which the stylus was an optional extra for specialized tasks, not at all required for operation. 


Not from that keynote/photo it wasn't. That appears to be the original iPhone, which I believe predates the Galaxy note.

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  # 1385063 10-Sep-2015 15:43
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I have some kind of Samsung tablet hybrid running Windows 10 and I never use the stylus. Actually I lie. I used it once in MSPaint to sign a document! I use my Nexus 7 all time as tablet, yet Samsung I use exclusively as a laptop (it has quite a solid keyboard that holds the screen up and I think has a battery in it).
Maybe I'm missing something with the Surface?

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