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  # 1416818 30-Oct-2015 10:53
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littleheaven: I've seen a couple of reviews - mostly positive when comparing it to the competition, Given the plethora of apps for iOS I am hoping that the new Apple TV will quickly eclipse other devices in terms of apps available.


The problems I have with the reviews I've seen is they all assume the device has Siri support. I'd be interested in the overall comparison with the competition with this feature absent, as the reviews generally say the ATV is the pick of the crop. Would that still be the case for our local variant?


The one I read said that Siri was cool but was really only useful with a few of the apps, that it wasn't anywhere near as good as Siri on iOS in terms of general queries, and had missed a few opportunities in terms of what it could have done. However, they still gave the device a 9/10 in terms of everything else.

I just got a text to say mine is delivering today, yay!

So... what apps are you all interested in getting, current and future? I'll be immediately installing Simplex (Plex-compatible client). For future, I am hoping for the NZ on demand services (TVNZ, TV3, Lightbox) and Spotify. My ATV plugs through my home theatre so I can play music from it. I know you can airplay with Spotify but it would be much nicer to have a native app. I have a feeling my US iTunes account might be coming in handy over the next few weeks.


That sounds like The Verge's review. Not sure after reading it how they got to 9's across the board but it's their review.

It sounds like not having Siri is much of an issue for us in NZ right now. It doesn't appear to have a decent search which would make it useful.

I agree with this paragraph of The Verge's review:

But limitations are everywhere. Only a small handful of apps work with Siri search right now — iTunes, Netflix, Hulu, HBO, and Showtime — so finding something in, say, the ESPN or CBS apps isn’t possible. Siri can’t find you a funny YouTube video, which seems like a shame. Tim Cook says a Siri search API is coming, but I get the feeling Apple wants Siri search to be a differentiator for the more premium services, so we’ll see how wide open that API is when it gets here. And once Siri drops you into a streaming app from that universal search, it’s a free-for-all — they all have different interfaces and recommendation engines, and none of them talk to each other. Shouldn’t Siri pay attention to what you’re watching and suggest content across services? Or at least give you a Most Recently Watched list across all your services, like the Fire TV and Roku? One of the best things about traditional TV is the serendipity of flipping it on and seeing something you like, or finding something new. There’s a big discovery piece that really ties all these services together that’s missing here. TV isn’t all about demanding things from a robot.


I have been waiting patiently for the Apple TV to have an app store. I hope to see what comes out over the next couple of months.

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  # 1416821 30-Oct-2015 10:55
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Will be interesting to see if the TV network on demand apps work on Apple TV.  Considering sending via Airplay to Apple TV is currently nobbled.




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  # 1416824 30-Oct-2015 11:00
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ZollyMonsta: Will be interesting to see if the TV network on demand apps work on Apple TV.  Considering sending via Airplay to Apple TV is currently nobbled.

 

 

 

Which drives me nuts! I know rights this and that.... except.... I use the on demand website on my computer plugged into my TV anyway, what's the point in blocking AirPlay?

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  # 1416825 30-Oct-2015 11:03
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myopinion: Received the new Apple TV. The remote has microphone holes front and back.


Just need to know if there are actually any microphones inside those holes, care to take it apart :-)


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  # 1416826 30-Oct-2015 11:04
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ZollyMonsta: Will be interesting to see if the TV network on demand apps work on Apple TV.  Considering sending via Airplay to Apple TV is currently nobbled.
  Which drives me nuts! I know rights this and that.... except.... I use the on demand website on my computer plugged into my TV anyway, what's the point in blocking AirPlay?


And then putting apps onto devices like the PS3/4! What's the difference?

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  # 1416854 30-Oct-2015 11:15
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ZollyMonsta: Will be interesting to see if the TV network on demand apps work on Apple TV.  Considering sending via Airplay to Apple TV is currently nobbled.
  Which drives me nuts! I know rights this and that.... except.... I use the on demand website on my computer plugged into my TV anyway, what's the point in blocking AirPlay?


And then putting apps onto devices like the PS3/4! What's the difference?


Indeed. I can't see why delivering to TV via HDMI cable (from PC or PS) makes the difference.

Oh, thanks sdav, it was the Verge review I read. I couldn't remember which one it was. I think their point was that as a media streamer it's bang on when compared to the competition, but that there's so much unexplored potential.

My unit has arrived. Gotta love Apple's packaging, it's always so beautiful - I say this as someone who organises print for a living. Lovely matt laminate and spot UV overgloss on the box.

How heavy would the microphones be in the remote - enough to make a difference in weight if they weren't there? Tech specs for Siri and Apple remotes are both 47g. I can't wait to get home and have a play!




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  # 1416895 30-Oct-2015 11:54
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Same weight sounds promising. Next step is to get one hooked up to the US and give it a test.

Mine arrived in Wellington this morning so hoping to get it today although I'm away most of the weekend so won't get to play with it till Sunday night :-(




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  # 1416908 30-Oct-2015 12:15
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This looks promising, anyone seen any other options for live/recorded TV?

http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php?54438-Plex-Channel-for-NextPVR




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  # 1416944 30-Oct-2015 12:29
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Can confirm that Siri works if you have an american iTunes account and set it up as being in the US (including not allowing it to use location services) and setting the timezone to be in the US




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  # 1416947 30-Oct-2015 12:34
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jarledb: Can confirm that Siri works if you have an american iTunes account and set it up as being in the US (including not allowing it to use location services) and setting the timezone to be in the US


Nice one so the hardware is all the same after all. It seems like they need to have Siri setup for different devices - for example you can get NZ Siri on the iPhone but its not available for the Apple Watch yet. This seems strange to me.

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  # 1416950 30-Oct-2015 12:41
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jarledb: Can confirm that Siri works if you have an american iTunes account and set it up as being in the US (including not allowing it to use location services) and setting the timezone to be in the US


Nice! We run our old ATVs in "US mode" anyway, so we can have the Hulu & HBO Now apps, and access to the US iTunes store :-)

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  # 1416951 30-Oct-2015 12:47
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Oh, thanks sdav, it was the Verge review I read. I couldn't remember which one it was. I think their point was that as a media streamer it's bang on when compared to the competition, but that there's so much unexplored potential.



I still struggle with how software comes in at a 9. I think it's weird to give software a high mark for it's potential which will likely require a software update to unlock said potential ha!


Anyway, still waiting for mine. Joys of Rural Delivery!

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  # 1416952 30-Oct-2015 12:48
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Youbee will have them in store mid next week. I got a few Prezzy cards to use, suits me.

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  # 1416955 30-Oct-2015 12:51
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Oh, thanks sdav, it was the Verge review I read. I couldn't remember which one it was. I think their point was that as a media streamer it's bang on when compared to the competition, but that there's so much unexplored potential.



I still struggle with how software comes in at a 9. I think it's weird to give software a high mark for it's potential which will likely require a software update to unlock said potential ha!


Anyway, still waiting for mine. Joys of Rural Delivery!


Look, feel, what it can do now, how easy it is to use. I think all of those can add up to a high score if every one of these facets were really good

We've all seen software that is well featured but is butt ugly, or bland looking. Or great looking software that is actually lite and/or buggy

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  # 1416977 30-Oct-2015 13:16
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jarledb: Can confirm that Siri works if you have an american iTunes account and set it up as being in the US (including not allowing it to use location services) and setting the timezone to be in the US


Awesome! Any downsides to turning off location services and setting timezone to US? I currently run my ATV3 on my US iTunes account so that won't be a huge change for me, but I'm not sure about the other settings. It's a good workaround until we get our own Siri (hopefully). 




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