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  # 1864667 13-Sep-2017 18:29
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I suspect there will be more than a few disappointed iPhone users. Particularly those who have been purposely holding off upgrading while patiently waiting for something new with the 10-year anniversary model - only to see the 'X' priced too high for them, with the next tier down iPhone 8s still priced well over $1,000 (ie. flagship prices) but retaining the same tired large-chinned chassis of the last three models. Heck, they didn't either bother to upgrade the screen resolution or move them to OLED!

 

 

I'm in this camp, I was holding off upgrading my iPhone 6S plus but now not going to bother

 

It's a shame the look of the Pixel 2 is fairly ugly, as I'd be keen to switch back to stock Android, but I really don't like that shiny plastic top half on the back and the flagship price for what is arguably a low quality feeling phone (going based off the original pixel)

 

I like the look of the Note 8 but really don't like touchwiz

 

 


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dafman:

 

I suspect there will be more than a few disappointed iPhone users. Particularly those who have been purposely holding off upgrading while patiently waiting for something new with the 10-year anniversary model - only to see the 'X' priced too high for them, with the next tier down iPhone 8s still priced well over $1,000 (ie. flagship prices) but retaining the same tired large-chinned chassis of the last three models. Heck, they didn't either bother to upgrade the screen resolution or move them to OLED!

 

 

 

 

I think they are milking that 8 design, because it is a 3-4 year old design, that has been facelifted. IMO there isn't enough reason to upgrade to the 8, because it looks like an old model compared to the X, so there is not even that wow factor to it. Guess it has wireless charging which allows people to charge and listen to music at the same time, but you can get a fantastic android phone that is closer to the specs of a iphone X for that price. 

 

The other thing with the iphone X, is why are they so stingy with the storage. IMO it should have come with 128GB as the base model, and 512MB for the top of the range one. Especially as you can't upgrade storage, and this is supposed to be their pro/top of the range device apple sells

 

 

 

I can also see many people disabling face ID because it is not always easy to have your face close to the device to use it. Then they are then force to type in a code, and it doesn't even have pattern codes like android.  Face ID also has potential security issues, where if you are forced to access your phone, all they need to do is point it to your face. Whereas the iphone 8 has touch ID which is is pretty foolproof , quick and reliable, as long as you have good fingerprints.

 

 

Doesnt Touch ID have the same security issues? Their forces you to touch ID it?

 

I found Touch ID very good. I expect FaceID will be as well. Facial recognition is not new, airport terminals do it well, should be easy on a top phone


 
 
 
 


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  # 1864669 13-Sep-2017 18:31
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I dont remember seeing "fast" charging (or "fast wireless") charging being mentioned anywhere. Anyone know about this?

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's fast charging, but wireless charging is 7.5 watts so not very fast


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Is wireless charging a universal standard? i.e Could I put an iPhone X onto a Samsung Wireless charger and would it work?

 

I think some cars have wireless charging pads in them (don't quote me on this)


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  # 1864676 13-Sep-2017 18:48
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Apparently it uses the universal Qi standard (or something like that) so should work wit most new ones using this.


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  # 1864707 13-Sep-2017 19:30
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dafman:

 

Yikes, correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like the entry-level iPhone X is NZ $500 more expensive than the Galaxy S8?!

 

Both 5.8" bezel-less screen, both 64GB (although the S8 is expandable)

 

iPhone X $1,799, Galaxy S8 $1,299

 

 

The correct comparison is the Note8 actually. so $1,799 vs $1,599

 

Still expensive in comparison, not to mention Samsung discount virtually from day dot, which is likely why their sales figures are catching iPhone.

 

 

How, let me repeat this, just how ....... HOW? How can you compare an iPhone X with a Note 8 ???? I know (and have long come to expect) that websites love to compare model releases side by side only on a tech by tech basis. 

 

But how can people compare an Apple with a Note? They are worlds and worlds apart, and any comparison of either, is doing the other a massive disservice.


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My impressions are that the 8 is a dated shell and what a let down having the same look from the iPhone 6, specs don't matter to me because the shell is still pretty much the same with no real change and wow factor. Samsung on the other hand i feel have really taken the Galaxy and Note lines to another level and look far more premium.

 

The X is damn fugly!! am i the only one who thinks that thing looks like smacked rrshole? was never a fan of the leaks and renders to start with. The vertical camera lens looks like one of those clip on modules added to the back and looks out of place, the screen how it quite doesn't kiss up flush with the bezels looks disconnected and that top notch is a something else... like WTF is that!?!

 

Overall it looks like a failed concept and really misses the mark and to boot you want $2100 for the 256gb model, if you want to rob the consumer blind at least throw in some Air Pods or something.

 

I would assume the specs are great and the user experience is buttery smooth like my 7+ but first impressions last and sorry Apple, but to be brutal that design should of been aborted.

 

Just my opinion, I'm sure that thing will sell like hotcakes and go on to be a success and everyone will be happy who purchased it.


 
 
 
 


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My impressions are that the 8 is a dated shell and what a let down having the same look from the iPhone 6, specs don't matter to me because the shell is still pretty much the same with no real change and wow factor. Samsung on the other hand i feel have really taken the Galaxy and Note lines to another level and look far more premium.

 

The X is damn fugly!! am i the only one who thinks that thing looks like smacked rrshole? was never a fan of the leaks and renders to start with. The vertical camera lens looks like one of those clip on modules added to the back and looks out of place, the screen how it quite doesn't kiss up flush with the bezels looks disconnected and that top notch is a something else... like WTF is that!?!

 

Overall it looks like a failed concept and really misses the mark and to boot you want $2100 for the 256gb model, if you want to rob the consumer blind at least throw in some Air Pods or something.

 

I would assume the specs are great and the user experience is buttery smooth like my 7+ but first impressions last and sorry Apple, but to be brutal that design should of been aborted.

 

Just my opinion, I'm sure that thing will sell like hotcakes and go on to be a success and everyone will be happy who purchased it.

 

 

You place a large premium on the look. Its not ugly, its a rectangular phone. yes, you can get looks that you may or may not like, but whats under the hood is what matters, HW and SW


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  # 1864721 13-Sep-2017 20:02
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tdgeek:

 

Dial111:

 

My impressions are that the 8 is a dated shell and what a let down having the same look from the iPhone 6, specs don't matter to me because the shell is still pretty much the same with no real change and wow factor. Samsung on the other hand i feel have really taken the Galaxy and Note lines to another level and look far more premium.

 

The X is damn fugly!! am i the only one who thinks that thing looks like smacked rrshole? was never a fan of the leaks and renders to start with. The vertical camera lens looks like one of those clip on modules added to the back and looks out of place, the screen how it quite doesn't kiss up flush with the bezels looks disconnected and that top notch is a something else... like WTF is that!?!

 

Overall it looks like a failed concept and really misses the mark and to boot you want $2100 for the 256gb model, if you want to rob the consumer blind at least throw in some Air Pods or something.

 

I would assume the specs are great and the user experience is buttery smooth like my 7+ but first impressions last and sorry Apple, but to be brutal that design should of been aborted.

 

Just my opinion, I'm sure that thing will sell like hotcakes and go on to be a success and everyone will be happy who purchased it.

 

 

You place a large premium on the look. Its not ugly, its a rectangular phone. yes, you can get looks that you may or may not like, but whats under the hood is what matters, HW and SW

 

 

No you're wrong, it is ugly, that's my opinion - I don't purely buy my phones based on HW and SW. I look at every aspect of a phone and if i find something about a phone I strongly dislike I wont buy it, simple. 


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  # 1864723 13-Sep-2017 20:04
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dickytim:

 

dafman:

 

Yikes, correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like the entry-level iPhone X is NZ $500 more expensive than the Galaxy S8?!

 

Both 5.8" bezel-less screen, both 64GB (although the S8 is expandable)

 

iPhone X $1,799, Galaxy S8 $1,299

 

 

The correct comparison is the Note8 actually. so $1,799 vs $1,599

 

Still expensive in comparison, not to mention Samsung discount virtually from day dot, which is likely why their sales figures are catching iPhone.

 

 

How, let me repeat this, just how ....... HOW? How can you compare an iPhone X with a Note 8 ???? I know (and have long come to expect) that websites love to compare model releases side by side only on a tech by tech basis. 

 

But how can people compare an Apple with a Note? They are worlds and worlds apart, and any comparison of either, is doing the other a massive disservice.

 

 

Can someone tell me how a curved glass screen is of any advantage? My eyes and fingers can't go around the front panel surely. Was looking at the 6.3" Note 8 for the wife but just can't get past the curved screen.





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  # 1864748 13-Sep-2017 20:34
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DaveB:

 

dickytim:

 

dafman:

 

Yikes, correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like the entry-level iPhone X is NZ $500 more expensive than the Galaxy S8?!

 

Both 5.8" bezel-less screen, both 64GB (although the S8 is expandable)

 

iPhone X $1,799, Galaxy S8 $1,299

 

 

The correct comparison is the Note8 actually. so $1,799 vs $1,599

 

Still expensive in comparison, not to mention Samsung discount virtually from day dot, which is likely why their sales figures are catching iPhone.

 

 

How, let me repeat this, just how ....... HOW? How can you compare an iPhone X with a Note 8 ???? I know (and have long come to expect) that websites love to compare model releases side by side only on a tech by tech basis. 

 

But how can people compare an Apple with a Note? They are worlds and worlds apart, and any comparison of either, is doing the other a massive disservice.

 

 

Can someone tell me how a curved glass screen is of any advantage? My eyes and fingers can't go around the front panel surely. Was looking at the 6.3" Note 8 for the wife but just can't get past the curved screen.

 

 

Being a long time Note user, (forced to use the S7 Edge when the Note was withdrawn), I can assure you that a curved edge is nothing more than a fleeting "Wow". If you can't get past the curved screen, buy her the Galaxy S8, or the older style iPhone. Quite simple really and better value for money.

 

I really wanted Apple to bring some competition into the marketplace after Sammy's problems last year. But it hasn't happened. They missed the boat again.

 

The only competition we have seen this year is how much the suppliers can fleece the consumers and, how high fan boys of both camps are willing to jump or bend over with eyes shut tight as they take it up the "wallet" and continue to support extortion in the name of "I must have it".

 

If you love your wife as much as I do mine, take her away for a few days instead. You will enjoy it more lol.


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DaveB:

 

 

 

Being a long time Note user, (forced to use the S7 Edge when the Note was withdrawn), I can assure you that a curved edge is nothing more than a fleeting "Wow". If you can't get past the curved screen, buy her the Galaxy S8, or the older style iPhone. Quite simple really and better value for money.

 

I really wanted Apple to bring some competition into the marketplace after Sammy's problems last year. But it hasn't happened. They missed the boat again.

 

The only competition we have seen this year is how much the suppliers can fleece the consumers and, how high fan boys of both camps are willing to jump or bend over with eyes shut tight as they take it up the "wallet" and continue to support extortion in the name of "I must have it".

 

If you love your wife as much as I do mine, take her away for a few days instead. You will enjoy it more lol.

 

 

Or they looked at the features and they met their needs and the price was within their budget.





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I will probably replace my 6S+ with an 8+, but I agree with the earlier posts that the lack of a 128Gb option is disappointing. I was thinking that 64Gb might be enough considering that I have my music and photos in iCloud, but I'm unclear as to whether iCloud photo library retains all photos locally on the device as well as in the cloud? This device needs to last me two years, so I may have to go with the 256Gb to be safe.

 

The concern I have with the X - aside from the obscene price - is that it would be extremely difficult to physically handle it without accidentally touching the display. That would drive me mad.


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I will probably replace my 6S+ with an 8+, but I agree with the earlier posts that the lack of a 128Gb option is disappointing. I was thinking that 64Gb might be enough considering that I have my music and photos in iCloud, but I'm unclear as to whether iCloud photo library retains all photos locally on the device as well as in the cloud? This device needs to last me two years, so I may have to go with the 256Gb to be safe.

 

The concern I have with the X - aside from the obscene price - is that it would be extremely difficult to physically handle it without accidentally touching the display. That would drive me mad.

 

 

If you choose optimised storage in settings then it downloads them until your device starts to get low on storage then it will remove them to make room. If you choose download originals then all photos are stored locally and you have to manage the storage. 





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alasta:

 

I will probably replace my 6S+ with an 8+, but I agree with the earlier posts that the lack of a 128Gb option is disappointing. I was thinking that 64Gb might be enough considering that I have my music and photos in iCloud, but I'm unclear as to whether iCloud photo library retains all photos locally on the device as well as in the cloud? This device needs to last me two years, so I may have to go with the 256Gb to be safe.

 

The concern I have with the X - aside from the obscene price - is that it would be extremely difficult to physically handle it without accidentally touching the display. That would drive me mad.

 

 

If you choose optimised storage in settings then it downloads them until your device starts to get low on storage then it will remove them to make room. If you choose download originals then all photos are stored locally and you have to manage the storage. 

 

 

How do you manage the storage? There doesn't appear to be any way to delete photos off the device locally without also deleting them from the iCloud Photo Library.


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