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  Reply # 1873648 27-Sep-2017 14:02
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I have noticed that enabling airplane mode, it also doesn't disable bluetooth, as that is still green.

 

 

This does make a lot of sense though - especially when most people who are listening to music on newer devices will be using Bluetooth headphones.

 

I'd be surprised if many (if any) airlines still prohibited Bluetooth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It actually did it for wifi too, so I couldn't turn off wifi, unless I went into the settings, as airplane mode check wifi on. However I think it could be a bug after upgrading ios. Because I have been fiddling with the toggles, and it does now seem to always turn it off when I toggle wifi off via the control centre, and that is without enabling airplane mode. What you have to make sure is that the wifi and bluetooth icons have the line though it. If it doesn't then, it is only disconnected from wifi, wifi isn't turned off completely. 


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  Reply # 1873649 27-Sep-2017 14:05
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Sadly iOS update (11.0.1) out today makes no changes to this.  Looks like this is the new norm, off switches that don't actually turn things off, and when your not looking automatically turn on again.      

 

 

 

 

Apparently the release mainly fixes the office 365 problem. There are still quite a few bugs they need to fix, such as the 3D touch lag.


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  Reply # 1873651 27-Sep-2017 14:08
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mattwnz:

 

sbiddle:

 

mattwnz:

 

I have noticed that enabling airplane mode, it also doesn't disable bluetooth, as that is still green.

 

 

This does make a lot of sense though - especially when most people who are listening to music on newer devices will be using Bluetooth headphones.

 

I'd be surprised if many (if any) airlines still prohibited Bluetooth.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It actually did it for wifi too, so I couldn't turn off wifi, unless I went into the settings, as airplane mode check wifi on. However I think it could be a bug after upgrading ios. Because I have been fiddling with the toggles, and it does now seem to always turn it off when I toggle wifi off via the control centre, and that is without enabling airplane mode. What you have to make sure is that the wifi and bluetooth icons have the line though it. If it doesn't then, it is only disconnected from wifi, wifi isn't turned off completely. 

 

 

 

 

How did you manage to get control centre to turn off wifi rather then disconnect? it's not a bug it's by design 


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  Reply # 1873654 27-Sep-2017 14:17
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Thought it was a fault, turns out it is deliberate.  Why Apple, why?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/21/ios-11-apple-toggling-wifi-bluetooth-control-centre-doesnt-turn-them-off

 

 

When it deliberately does nothing with the toggle, do the wifi and Bluetooth icons still show that they are active, or are they also hidden to deceive you?

 

I'm not updating to ios 11 for as long as possible

 

ideally there are non ios products my wider family can use but at the moment not an option




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  Reply # 1873675 27-Sep-2017 15:10
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scuwp:

 

Thought it was a fault, turns out it is deliberate.  Why Apple, why?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/21/ios-11-apple-toggling-wifi-bluetooth-control-centre-doesnt-turn-them-off

 

 

When it deliberately does nothing with the toggle, do the wifi and Bluetooth icons still show that they are active, or are they also hidden to deceive you?

 

I'm not updating to ios 11 for as long as possible

 

ideally there are non ios products my wider family can use but at the moment not an option

 

 

The icons on the top of the screen disappear, but if you go into settings they are still clearly turned on, and you can turn them off (properly) in settings if you want to.  iOS11.0.1 is out today but can't discern any obvious difference.  Otherwise loving the update, particularly on the iPad.     





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  Reply # 1873692 27-Sep-2017 16:14
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So what kind of battery drain are we talking about when someone who doesn't use bluetooth at all normally.




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  Reply # 1873708 27-Sep-2017 16:48
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I have not experienced any difference in battery life across any of the devices in my household because of the new OS. Bluetooth I only turn on when needed, and turn off when not. I doubt there’s much testing about yet with the new kinda-off status.




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  Reply # 1873712 27-Sep-2017 16:53
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I mean how much does BT and Wifi normally drain? IME a lot for bluetooth, a little for wifi.


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  Reply # 1873726 27-Sep-2017 17:05
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A lot of people are experiencing battery problems and I am also having problems with it draining more. I actually tried to download the update today, but there seems to be a bug in the updating part of IOS stopping me. I press the button to download and install. The button text goes grey with a spinning circle, and then the button text turns blue again. I try again, and the same thug happens. This is fully charged and connected to the wall. The other device I have started installing it without me even agreeing to install it. It is weird.


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  Reply # 1873751 27-Sep-2017 17:19
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A lot of people are experiencing battery problems and I am also having problems with it draining more. I actually tried to download the update today, but there seems to be a bug in the updating part of IOS stopping me. I press the button to download and install. The button text goes grey with a spinning circle, and then the button text turns blue again. I try again, and the same thug happens. This is fully charged and connected to the wall. The other device I have started installing it without me even agreeing to install it. It is weird.

 

 

 

 

I know it doesn't help you but i am installing the  11.0.1 update now and it's proceeding ok. Also i had battery drain issues earlier this month which i posted here, the update to 11.0 seems to have fixed that for me. 





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  Reply # 1873757 27-Sep-2017 17:32
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TBH I've never experienced a problem with BT draining battery.  


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  Reply # 1873766 27-Sep-2017 17:59
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People always report battery drain issues after any update


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  Reply # 1873779 27-Sep-2017 18:06
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I haven't had any iOS 11 battery issues either.  I dunno, I guess the 7+ battery is just big enough to last long enough in normal use for me not to really notice a problem with having BT enabled all the time.


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