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  Reply # 137028 10-Jun-2008 14:46
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I think the biggest irony of all is that Telstra Next G - the world's biggest, fastest and most advanced 3G network, and only one of a handful of 850MHz 3G networks in the world, won't officially be getting the 3G iPhone.

Go figure!


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  Reply # 137029 10-Jun-2008 14:50
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CRKD: <------------(Clapping, applause etc)


My point exactly.


Shocking to say the least.....too many don't knows, too small, too late, too bad.


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  Reply # 137033 10-Jun-2008 14:58
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Just as a side note, both Vodafone and Optus will be selling the iPhone in Australia. So I definitely wouldn’t rule out Telecom when they get their GSM network running.

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  Reply # 137036 10-Jun-2008 15:11
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CRKD:

I have spoken to Renaissance Apple Division who has confirmed they will be distributing the iPhone to Mac resellers in NZ; however after speaking to a Manager at a local Apple reseller, he said that they are waiting for their Vodafone dealership application to come through before they can sell it.



It is interesting that you have to be a vodafone dealer to sell the phone, this fits with the "more stringent" activation proceedures that seem to be appearing in the US, with AT&T only allowing instore activation of the 3G as opposed to via Itunes currently, along with rumored "penalties" if you do not activate a phone in 30 days .

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/09/atandt-and-apple-tightening-policies-to-reduce-iphone-unlocking/

You would have thought that they would have learnt by the number of free range iPhones, that  ppl are not wanting to be chained down in what they can do with their phone.

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  Reply # 137068 10-Jun-2008 17:01
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wellygary:
It is interesting that you have to be a vodafone dealer to sell the phone, this fits with the "more stringent" activation proceedures that seem to be appearing in the US, with AT&T only allowing instore activation of the 3G as opposed to via Itunes currently, along with rumored "penalties" if you do not activate a phone in 30 days .

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/06/09/atandt-and-apple-tightening-policies-to-reduce-iphone-unlocking/

You would have thought that they would have learnt by the number of free range iPhones, that  ppl are not wanting to be chained down in what they can do with their phone.


I guess that is because;

a, The carrier is subsidising the phone (If the $199 US Global Price point is correct), so selling it withought a contract is throwing money away, esepcially if you use a rival network.
b, Apple is getting a kick back from the carrier, (no contract and Steve would have to go without).
c, They are releasing the iPhone in 70 Countries this year (maybe more), so most (90%) of users should be able to purchase the iPhone from their local carrier and not have to parallel import.

With Phone + Data contracts likely to be around the NZ$100 a month range, every iPhone is a gauranteed $2400 for Vodafone/Apple, do you really see them jepordizing that revenue?

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  Reply # 137078 10-Jun-2008 17:10
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THe most obvious difference now is that unlike the exclusive AT&T deal that involved Apple getting a % of the montly fee from the carrier this will no longer happen.

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  Reply # 137090 10-Jun-2008 18:13
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CRKD: With Phone + Data contracts likely to be around the NZ$100 a month range, every iPhone is a gauranteed $2400 for Vodafone/Apple, do you really see them jepordizing that revenue?
I certainly hope the plans aren't that high.  Kinda defeats the goal of being "more affordable" you'd think.




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  Reply # 137139 10-Jun-2008 19:49
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lugh:
CRKD: With Phone + Data contracts likely to be around the NZ$100 a month range, every iPhone is a gauranteed $2400 for Vodafone/Apple, do you really see them jepordizing that revenue?
I certainly hope the plans aren't that high.  Kinda defeats the goal of being "more affordable" you'd think.


Thats the catch. In the US the new 3G iPhone is actually going to be more expensive (overall) than the old one.

Take a look at http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/94465

I assume if AT&T's base plan for unlimited data and 450 min's call time is US$70, we can expect something in the ballpark of NZ$100 (or more) from Vodafone.

The only way I see it costing less is if Vodafone execs stop using Greenback's to fuel their woodburners this winter Money mouth

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  Reply # 137147 10-Jun-2008 20:27
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Hmmm.
All very interesting.
I'm personally keen to see it arrive and it's good to see a defined launch date.

I can't believe the whingeing about no information on Vodafone...  I guess those people aren't too educated on how Apple works.
The only place you'll see info on the new device is on the Apple websites. 
I'm going to start doing some surfing - I'd bet my left-one that there is NOTHING shown on the Vodafone sites in NZ, Aus, Italy and Portugal (what others were there?)  Let alone the other carriers...  Becausee Vodafone can't be bothered?  I don't think so.  That would be at Apple's instruction...

My bet is that the Marketing manager at Vodafone is very happy and comfortable, because the iPhone will sell itself.
No matter if you hate Apple - try and ignore the reality of their sales figures.

I'm hoping for a $300 - $350 price tag and I'm not worried so much about data charges...  WiFi at home - and WiFi access at work - I'll be set!
I wouldn't want to buy an iPhone without a plan - you'd be better off buying a parallel imported one for $1000 two months ago...  (OUCH!)

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  Reply # 137162 10-Jun-2008 21:04
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But O2 who sell the Iphone in the Uk have there plans out now for the UK market.

thegeekboy: Hmmm.
All very interesting.
I'm personally keen to see it arrive and it's good to see a defined launch date.

I can't believe the whingeing about no information on Vodafone...  I guess those people aren't too educated on how Apple works.
The only place you'll see info on the new device is on the Apple websites. 
I'm going to start doing some surfing - I'd bet my left-one that there is NOTHING shown on the Vodafone sites in NZ, Aus, Italy and (OUCH!)

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  Reply # 137166 10-Jun-2008 21:13
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action55: But O2 who sell the Iphone in the Uk have there plans out now for the UK market.

thegeekboy: Hmmm.
All very interesting.
I'm personally keen to see it arrive and it's good to see a defined launch date.

I can't believe the whingeing about no information on Vodafone...  I guess those people aren't too educated on how Apple works.
The only place you'll see info on the new device is on the Apple websites. 
I'm going to start doing some surfing - I'd bet my left-one that there is NOTHING shown on the Vodafone sites in NZ, Aus, Italy and (OUCH!)


But iphone's have been on sale in the UK since last year so of course the pricing would be on the website. We are talking about a product which hasn't yet been released in New Zealand.

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  Reply # 137168 10-Jun-2008 21:17
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The O2 pricing is for the 3G iphone that has not been released in the UK either.

marmel:
action55: But O2 who sell the Iphone in the Uk have there plans out now for the UK market.

thegeekboy: Hmmm.
All very interesting.
I'm personally keen to see it arrive and it's good to see a defined launch date.

I can't believe the whingeing about no information on Vodafone...  I guess those people aren't too educated on how Apple works.
The only place you'll see info on the new device is on the Apple websites. 
I'm going to start doing some surfing - I'd bet my left-one that there is NOTHING shown on the Vodafone sites in NZ, Aus, Italy and (OUCH!)


But iphone's have been on sale in the UK since last year so of course the pricing would be on the website. We are talking about a product which hasn't yet been released in New Zealand.

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  Reply # 137170 10-Jun-2008 21:21
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O2 does seem to have information and tarrifs specific to the new 3G iPhone.

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  Reply # 137172 10-Jun-2008 21:22
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marmel: But iphone's have been on sale in the UK since last year so of course the pricing would be on the website. We are talking about a product which hasn't yet been released in New Zealand.
Judging by the way that the website refers to the 3G model (albeit not on that exact page), those do look like the charges for the new model.




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  Reply # 137179 10-Jun-2008 21:39
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Correct but it's not that much of a change for them to implement as they already ofer an iphone with a call/data plan.

For VF NZ it's going to be a new concept entirely, especially if they offer unlimited data. Might take a little longer to work out pricing.

Mind you they have known they were getting the iphone for a while so you would think they already have their pricing sorted, probably just waiting for the right time to go public.

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