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  Reply # 1960807 20-Feb-2018 10:54
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I have noticed the same problem over the last few days with my iPhone 7. I agree, it seems to have started since I installed the latest IOS. I'm with a different provider as well.

 

Edit: I have iMessage on


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  Reply # 1960995 20-Feb-2018 14:37
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Starscream122: I don't get what this video is about?  
The video shows me turning iMessage off & then on again. No SMS arrives. No SMS is sent = No charge


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1960996 20-Feb-2018 14:41
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It's OK - just another way Apple is managing your battery health for you tongue-out





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  Reply # 1961004 20-Feb-2018 14:54
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IcI:

Starscream122: I don't get what this video is about?  
The video shows me turning iMessage off & then on again. No SMS arrives. No SMS is sent = No charge

when I turn imessage off and on again no sms comes to my inbox or outbox but i still get charged....

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  Reply # 1961063 20-Feb-2018 15:33
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Starscream122:
IcI:

 

Starscream122: I don't get what this video is about?  
The video shows me turning iMessage off & then on again. No SMS arrives. No SMS is sent = No charge

 

when I turn imessage off and on again no sms comes to my inbox or outbox but i still get charged....

 

Of course you will still get charged not all SMS are visible to the end user

 

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  Reply # 1961064 20-Feb-2018 15:35
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Starscream122: I don't get what this video is about?  
The video shows me turning iMessage off & then on again. No SMS arrives. No SMS is sent = No charge

 

 

You are way off track not all SMS are visible to the end user

 

When you get a incoming PXT / MMS you get a SMS (you can't see) and this tells the handset to go collect the PXT

 

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  Reply # 1961265 21-Feb-2018 05:50
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I find it odd that nobody has reported this IOS fault to Apple and it hasn’t been found out in beta testing .

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  Reply # 1961266 21-Feb-2018 06:16
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What fault? The sms message? It's expected behaviour. It's been a thing ever since iMessage has been a thing.




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  Reply # 1961446 21-Feb-2018 11:47
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lxsw20:

 

What fault? The sms message? It's expected behaviour. It's been a thing ever since iMessage has been a thing.

 

 Fault that they intermittently fail to send with imessage turned on??


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  Reply # 1961452 21-Feb-2018 11:55
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Linux: You are way off track ...
Maybe. I reserve the right to not take every comment on the Internet at face value. I will then seek clarification and validation. As the Apple KB article states, "Depending on your carrier, you might be charged for this SMS." Being charged for that SMS is not guaranteed. I certainly was not charged any fee from my carrier, irrespective of invisible / visible SMS's. I have verieid on the statement by my provider.

 

Linux: ... not all SMS are visible to the end user ...
If they are chargeable, don't you think they should be visible to the user? I can literally hear the outrage of the masses should the be charged for SMS's that they are not aware of.

 

 

 

Having said the above, I'll admit that my tone can be abrasive at times and I will be more aware of that on the enjoyable 15 year old GZ forums.


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  Reply # 1961637 21-Feb-2018 15:48
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IcI: The video shows me turning iMessage off & then on again. No SMS arrives. No SMS is sent = No charge

 

 

My emphasis - that's not correct. An SMS is sent, an SMS arrives, there may or may not be a charge depending on your contract with your carrier.

 

Activating Facetime and/or iMessage on an iPhone sends and receives SMS to +447786205094. This essentially is to authenticate the phone number of the SIM in use so you can send and receive an iMessage from the phone number (as opposed to the Apple ID / email address etc.).

 

The SMS is sent in the background, and is not visible to the user. It will not show in the messages app, but will show (the outgoing one at least) on your carrier's bill, as long as it itemises each message.

 

From New Zealand, this is (obviously) an international SMS - you may not be charged for an SMS to the UK on the particular plan with the particular carrier you are with, but that is not the case for quite a number of plans/providers, and the user is billed for an outgoing SMS to the UK number each and every time iMessage and/or Facetime is (re)activated.


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  Reply # 1961844 21-Feb-2018 21:49
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Thank you RunningMan for that clarification. I guess my carrier does not charge for this SMS.

 

I will let this thread return to the original topic.




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  Reply # 1966692 1-Mar-2018 18:18
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Sam91:

 

I have noticed the same problem over the last few days with my iPhone 7. I agree, it seems to have started since I installed the latest IOS. I'm with a different provider as well.

 

Edit: I have iMessage on

 

 

 

 

Have you tried turning imessage off to see if that fixes it?


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  Reply # 1971213 8-Mar-2018 13:38
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I don't get what this video is about? 

 

 

Me neither.


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