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  Reply # 143673 7-Jul-2008 12:01
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magu: My bad! Coding and reading forums at the same time makes your brain go wild sometimes.

I meant 4 digits.

In that case, how long will it be until supply outweighs demand and we can import some "prepay" iPhones from the US for $700 NZD or whatever it was…

The whole point of buying local is that the iPhone itself will be very cheap (compared with the Nokia N95's etc. of this world) but the 24 month plan is where the cash is for Voda.

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  Reply # 143674 7-Jul-2008 12:04
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magu: My bad! Coding and reading forums at the same time makes your brain go wild sometimes.
Remember, beware the Ballmer Peak. Wink




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  Reply # 143675 7-Jul-2008 12:04
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This would fly in the face of the nz pc world guy saying that vf nz's prices would kill the parrallel import market for iphones.

Heres hoping its wrong, a 4 digit price I will have to cancel my purchase plans

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  Reply # 143676 7-Jul-2008 12:04
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Even although it was stated that almost every country would have the iPhones at that similar price, it would seem very odd to have one or two that were so much more expensive.  If NZ is going to have them retail at 4 digits that is ridiculously higher that everywhere else.  Doesn't make sense to me.

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  Reply # 143677 7-Jul-2008 12:06
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Well that would mean Vodafone NZ was given an exception from Apple in the US, whom explicitly stated that the iPhone "will not be sold for more than the equivalent of $199 USD"

I'd love you to point out where that is explicitly stated. As far as I am aware, it was a comment Steve Jobs said in a presentation. Their press release for the US at the time said...

iPhone 3G will be available in the US on July 11 for a suggested retail price of $199 (US) for the 8GB model and $299 (US) for the 16GB model in both Apple and AT&T's retail stores and requires a new two year contract with AT&T for qualifying customers.

Even then they were saying "suggested" but were hinting at the notion of $199 worldwide...not explicitly stating it I believe.

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  Reply # 143678 7-Jul-2008 12:06
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friendlymonkey:
magu: Just heard some not so good news on the pricing front. Take it with the grain of salt, of course, but apparently prices are going to be into the double 4 (sorry!) digits even for the 8Gb phone, and they are not being subsidized.

Prices are supposed to be defined at this super-secret meeting on Wednesday (hard to believe, IMHO).

And apparently the data plans that Vodafone offers now will not apply to the iPhone. And not everyone will want to sell it as Vodafone is not making any margins on prices for the dealers.

All of this, of course, is not official and has not been checked in any way. Not standing behind this information, just passing along.

What/who is your source?


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  Reply # 143679 7-Jul-2008 12:08
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lugh:
magu: My bad! Coding and reading forums at the same time makes your brain go wild sometimes.
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  Reply # 143680 7-Jul-2008 12:08
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I can bet it won't be 4 figures.

And I question "the phone won't be subsidised" part. Undecided

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  Reply # 143682 7-Jul-2008 12:15
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 I'd love you to point out where that is explicitly stated. As far as I am aware, it was a comment Steve Jobs said in a presentation. Their press release for the US at the time said...
In the presentation video from Apple (available online etc. etc.) at 1hr40mins or so, Steve Jobs says "... and in almost every one of these countries, the price is a maximum of $199, all around the world."





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  Reply # 143683 7-Jul-2008 12:20
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"... and in almost every one of these countries"

Translation..."not in all of them".

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  Reply # 143688 7-Jul-2008 12:24
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After talking to a source in Vodafone I am getting somewhere close to accurate info.

Expect to pay around $1000 people.

My source confirmed they were surprised at the amount of stock they was available to each store.

A managers meeting was held mid week and orders were placed by managers for there stores on this day.

Staff receive their training just prior to stores opening.

And still no information about the cost of plans!

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  Reply # 143690 7-Jul-2008 12:27
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aimsy007: After talking to a source in Vodafone I am getting somewhere close to accurate info.

Expect to pay around $1000 people.

My source confirmed they were surprised at the amount of stock they was available to each store.

A managers meeting was held mid week and orders were placed by managers for there stores on this day.

Staff receive their training just prior to stores opening.

And still no information about the cost of plans!


Interesting. Somewhat confirms what I heard as well.




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  Reply # 143691 7-Jul-2008 12:27
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I would be expecting $1K if they offered it on a prepay plan but not on a contract, looks like ill be parallel importing one if this is the case

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Reply # 143692 7-Jul-2008 12:27

Come on Vodafone, the suspense is killing me! 
Give us the prices!!!!!

I would say the prices would be cheaper than what we have previously faced in NZ but not as cheap as in the US and others. This simply due to the duopoly structure of the mobile market in NZ. Vodafone would be better off charging a higher price here simply because they can in the NZ market structure, this would give them higher revenue (according to basic economic models). Also due to economies of scale it would have to be more expensive in NZ because there are less people paying for their fixed network operating costs.

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  Reply # 143694 7-Jul-2008 12:29
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I was thinking relatively cheap phone with gouging contract, if the 4 digits is true looks like its a double raping from VF :(

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