iPhone backup size larger than iphone storage size -- and still going...

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surfisup1000

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#300549 17-Sep-2022 08:20

I'm using Win10 & iTunes to backup my old iphone (ios16) so that I can restore it to my new iphone.

The iphone storage has used 81gb out of 239gb, and 'other' data uses 45gb out of 81gb!

The backup is still running after 8 hours and the backup folder size is now at 178gb.

Not really expecting anyone to know how to fix this, a few other people posted the same issue on the internet but there were no solutions.

So I've been manually setting up the new phone, icloud helps to get things like messages moved across, but tedious.

I'll leave the backup running to see how big it gets :)

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#2969387 17-Sep-2022 08:55

Can’t help you with your problem but I got a new iPhone last month and all I had to do was put the phones next to each other and it did the full setup and migration automatically and wirelessly

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#2969404 17-Sep-2022 09:58

Ensure both phones on the latest OS available. might pay not to upgrade to 16 yet?

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#2969405 17-Sep-2022 10:00

How is following a wizard and entering your AppleID and selecting restore from (iCloud) backup tedious?? Note: I've never used iTunes in my life.

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surfisup1000

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#2969428 17-Sep-2022 12:53

Spyware:

How is following a wizard and entering your AppleID and selecting restore from (iCloud) backup tedious?? Note: I've never used iTunes in my life.

You are confusing things ... icloud has 2 separate features -- first feature is to store your settings and data in the cloud. So if your phone is destroyed, at least you can recover important data such as messages, passwords, and photos. You lose everything not stored in icloud.

The second 'newer' icloud feature , is icloud device migration, which temporarily disables icloud data limits for the purpose of migrating everything from your old phone to the new iphone. I can't use this method, i'm guessing for the same reason the itunes backup size is now over 300gb , for a 240gb phone!

So in my case, i can recover messages/safari/keychain from icloud, but, the rest is a manual setup. I do like to have a local backup but it looks like that isn't going to happen.

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#2969437 17-Sep-2022 13:53

dt: Can’t help you with your problem but I got a new iPhone last month and all I had to do was put the phones next to each other and it did the full setup and migration automatically and wirelessly

I'm an android user and cannot help but admire iPhones for moving to a new device. I use them for work, so I get sent a new one, type in my Apple ID and ten minutes later the new one is identical to the old one.

As for that much data on the back up, no idea, is that every photo ever taken??

DeepBlueSky

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#2969598 18-Sep-2022 06:57

Hi surfisup1000 I think you maybe over thinking this I'm assuming its a 'NEW' iPhone in which case its covered by Apple Support. From experience the guys on the phone were really good when my doughier had issues with her apple account and device setup. And I had great service for an issue with AppleTV and Family sharing it went all the way up the food chain had people calling me back after work remoting into my phone.

Long story short give them a call you will have warranty. nothing to loose.

Plan B - If you are in a Main City Service Plus are really great they very professional and Apple Certified they could work on this under Warranty I'm sure.

You have options :)

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#2969606 18-Sep-2022 07:36

ain't matter how big the backup is if it got USB-C or USB3

USB2 speed in 2022 for a $3000 phone is criminal

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#2969612 18-Sep-2022 08:24

Strong recommendation (weirdly) to not doing this.

When your new phone arrives turn it on and it will look for your current one to transfer data from. There’s a pattern to scan to trigger the transfer. Just sit the phones side by side and leave them for five minutes. Critically the phone data will transfer including all your logins and passwords exactly as they were on your old phone (these don’t automatically transfer across on wired transfer or iCloud backup).

It is MUCH easier and works far better. Having just done this with my wife’s new phone (8 to 13 Pro) it is safe, non destructive and laughably simple in that way that Apple stuff often is once you give up trying to do it right and just let Apple do it for you.

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surfisup1000

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#2969621 18-Sep-2022 10:13

DeepBlueSky:

Hi surfisup1000 I think you maybe over thinking this I'm assuming its a 'NEW' iPhone in which case its covered by Apple Support.

You didn't read what I wrote (it is the old phone that has some kind of data corruption). But thanks.

Problem is bypassed now anyway.

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#2969622 18-Sep-2022 10:14

bendud: Strong recommendation (weirdly) to not doing this.

When your new phone arrives turn it on and it will look for your current one to transfer data from. There’s a pattern to scan to trigger the transfer. Just sit the phones side by side and leave them for five minutes. Critically the phone data will transfer including all your logins and passwords exactly as they were on your old phone (these don’t automatically transfer across on wired transfer or iCloud backup).

It is MUCH easier and works far better. Having just done this with my wife’s new phone (8 to 13 Pro) it is safe, non destructive and laughably simple in that way that Apple stuff often is once you give up trying to do it right and just let Apple do it for you.

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Yes, that part worked OK... just not the larger job of transferring everything else.

Problem is fixed now anway, thanks.

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#2969625 18-Sep-2022 10:29

surfisup1000:

bendud: Strong recommendation (weirdly) to not doing this.

When your new phone arrives turn it on and it will look for your current one to transfer data from. There’s a pattern to scan to trigger the transfer. Just sit the phones side by side and leave them for five minutes. Critically the phone data will transfer including all your logins and passwords exactly as they were on your old phone (these don’t automatically transfer across on wired transfer or iCloud backup).

It is MUCH easier and works far better. Having just done this with my wife’s new phone (8 to 13 Pro) it is safe, non destructive and laughably simple in that way that Apple stuff often is once you give up trying to do it right and just let Apple do it for you.

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Yes, that part worked OK... just not the larger job of transferring everything else.

Problem is fixed now anway, thanks.

This is where an iCloud subscription comes in handy... or one drive or what ever else you feel comfortable with..

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#2969634 18-Sep-2022 11:01

I (clearly!) don’t understand the problem here.

Wireless transfer to new lock phone, wipe old phone using the reset option that automatically gets rid of all your iCloud links to the old phone.

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surfisup1000

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#2969723 18-Sep-2022 14:18

bendud:
Wireless transfer to new lock phone

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You haven't really answered the question. How do I fix the corrupt file system in the old phone so I could do that?

surfisup1000

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#2969724 18-Sep-2022 14:19

zocster:

This is where an iCloud subscription comes in handy...

How would that have helped to fix the corrupt file system in the old phone?

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#2969728 18-Sep-2022 14:43

Having done this in the last week twice (once on iPhone, once on iPad) the wireless transfer from old to new device took everything. It was an exact clone of the old phone (or iPad). Including documents, photos, messages etc and no requirement to enter passwords again.

So IDK how your data didn’t move across (it does take time). AFAIK it doesn’t route through your broadband connection as the devices need to be close to each other, suggesting local transfer.

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