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  Reply # 341873 15-Jun-2010 11:57
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Small print:

(Total min cost over 24 months is $1896)

If you want to be ripped off in the long run, yeah this would be great.

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  Reply # 341901 15-Jun-2010 13:00
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enzedone:
Small print:

(Total min cost over 24 months is $1896)

If you want to be ripped off in the long run, yeah this would be great.


Have you added up the all up cost of VFNZ iphone plans?

iphone 60 = $2289
iphone 80 = $2719
iphone 130 = $3719

and i think it's fair to say none of them offer anywhere near the same value as the VFAU plans? Even the iphone 130 with double the all-up cost still has only half the data of AU's $79.95 plan (which has a 0$ upfront) - and please don't give me that 3GB promotion rubbish...

The iphone 40 is probably the best deal in NZ but it's only marginally cheaper than buying outright, and if you're doing that you may as well go TC or 2degrees and avoid VF's compulsory 12mth term.



 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 341928 15-Jun-2010 14:26
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To suggest that the ihpone plan in NZ is cheaper in the longrun is riduculous




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  Reply # 341934 15-Jun-2010 14:48
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To suggest that the 32GB 3GS iphone plan in NZ is cheaper in the longrun is riduculous

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Australian Vodafone ($79 plan)

$0 Upfront +$79 / month (24mo) = 1896 AUD = $2,340 NZD

Unlimited calls to australian vodafone mobies
Unlimited txt/pxt to national & international #s
1GB / month data

Plus

$550 credit / month to spend on the following
50c / additional MB = 1100 MB
or 120c / min phone calls (+35c flag fall) = 87 x 5 min phone calls (~435 min)

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New Zealand Vodafone ($40 plan)

$899 Upfront + $40 / month (24mo) = $1859

30 minutes
300 txt (National only, no PXT)
250MB / month

New Zealand Vodafone ($80 plan)

$799 Upfront + $80 / month (24mo) = $2719

120 minutes
600 txt (National only, no PXT)
250MB / month

New Zealand Vodafone ($250 plan)

$299 Upfront + $250 / month (24mo) = $6299

600 minutes
600 TXT (National only, no PXT)
1GB / Month

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I think the australian plan is most similar to the $250 NZ plan
So total cost: Australian plan = $2340NZ 'vs' New Zealand plan = $6299

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If you compare the two cheapest plans including the phone purchase price
Australia ($79AUD) plan = $97.50NZD / month
Vodafone ($40) plan = $77.50 / month

So your paying an extra $20, but you are getting about 10x more value




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  Reply # 341941 15-Jun-2010 15:09
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TBH ever since the 3G came out VF have been royally screwing the NZ consumer compared to overseas providers(even compared to themselves in overseas-guise).

Im not sure why this is but im getting bloody sick of it. 

Ill be sourcing the iPhone 4 from either hong kong or Aussie and paying a contract break fee the next time im there and put the phone on a standard contract on vodafone...or if they try to play hard ball-Telecom.

Surely the iPhone brings enough revenue in via the amount of (ridiculously priced)data it gets consumers using.  Why stomp on your customers' wallets even further with this ridiculous pricing?





 


The force is strong with this one!

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  Reply # 341960 15-Jun-2010 15:36
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rossmnz: TBH ever since the 3G came out VF have been royally screwing the NZ consumer compared to overseas providers(even compared to themselves in overseas-guise).

Im not sure why this is but im getting bloody sick of it. 

Ill be sourcing the iPhone 4 from either hong kong or Aussie and paying a contract break fee the next time im there and put the phone on a standard contract on vodafone...or if they try to play hard ball-Telecom.

Surely the iPhone brings enough revenue in via the amount of (ridiculously priced)data it gets consumers using.  Why stomp on your customers' wallets even further with this ridiculous pricing?



Vodafone is a business.
Where there in a dollar to be made, a dollar will be made.


That however does not mean that I agree with their expensive pricing.





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  Reply # 341969 15-Jun-2010 15:59
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rossmnz: TBH ever since the 3G came out VF have been royally screwing the NZ consumer compared to overseas providers(even compared to themselves in overseas-guise).

Im not sure why this is but im getting bloody sick of it. 

Ill be sourcing the iPhone 4 from either hong kong or Aussie and paying a contract break fee the next time im there and put the phone on a standard contract on vodafone...or if they try to play hard ball-Telecom.

Surely the iPhone brings enough revenue in via the amount of (ridiculously priced)data it gets consumers using.  Why stomp on your customers' wallets even further with this ridiculous pricing?



Simple - Ditch them. Get yourself an iphone4 from apple.co.nz and putting it on XT.

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  Reply # 341972 15-Jun-2010 16:06
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I think telecom / XT works out to be a very similar price, unless there is some special deal I am missing out on. 2 degrees seems to be the cheapest.




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  Reply # 341989 15-Jun-2010 16:33
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kiwijunglist: I think telecom / XT works out to be a very similar price, unless there is some special deal I am missing out on. 2 degrees seems to be the cheapest.


Pretty similar on XT - I got a double up deal when i joined so I get 100mins instead of 50 on onerate 50. On top of that I get 240MB for $18 and text2500 so all up $60 for 100mins, 120MB and 2500 anyone texts.

To be honest I never use anywhere near the minutes or data i'm given.

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  Reply # 342010 15-Jun-2010 17:06
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kiwijunglist: I think telecom / XT works out to be a very similar price, unless there is some special deal I am missing out on. 2 degrees seems to be the cheapest.
someone did this when the iphone 3g first launched:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Ah97zKFfzyG4dHA5TTRrdzVqLUlSR29sTXN5WlRtbWc&hl=en_GB

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Reply # 342023 15-Jun-2010 17:45
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Regs: iphone 3GS to 3GSX then 3GSXR?


Mean iphone

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  Reply # 342039 15-Jun-2010 18:33
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mattk: 

Simple - Ditch them. Get yourself an iphone4 from apple.co.nz and putting it on XT.


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Exactly. Stop crying over a luxury device. If you can get it cheaper elsewhere then go for it. You think VNFZ arent aware of their price point?

If there is such a large profit to be made, why isnt PI, or anybody else pumping them out? 

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  Reply # 343644 21-Jun-2010 09:24
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MikeyPI:

Exactly. Stop crying over a luxury device. If you can get it cheaper elsewhere then go for it. You think VNFZ arent aware of their price point?

If there is such a large profit to be made, why isnt PI, or anybody else pumping them out? 


Because the money's being made primarily in the services that iPhone (although not exclusively) enables and encourages consumers to use.

The barriers of entry for mobile networks are probably a step too far for PI... 

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  Reply # 349862 11-Jul-2010 00:30
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i think at the end of the day we can all bitch about iphone + vodafone in nz and how ripoff they are compared to the rest of the world but we still have to deal with it :( its amazing what monopoly does ae....

iphone 40 fits me fine at the moment in my life and for that i am content haha...

[edit] and yes it is worth waiting for [/edit] 

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  Reply # 350929 13-Jul-2010 17:14
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heavenlywild: Sorry to be the party-pooper but I am not all that excited about the new iPhone.

Currently owning the iPhone 3GS, the better main camera, front facing camera and multi-tasking abilities on the new iPhone don't really seem it's worth upgrading to. Sure, if you don't have an iPhone at present, it's a great device but not sure if you come from a 3GS.

The front-facing camera is useful but only to a small segment of the market. The world quickly found out that people don't enjoy 3G video calls as much as technology world expected.


Yeah I have to agree with the first sentence (in particular). My iPhone 3g is a fun and useful device. But Android OS looks more interesting to me currently (than any of the iOS options). I think I'll be changing to an HTC Desire shortly (or something better?). I think most devices have tradeoffs, Apple have theirs, Android devices have theirs.. and different tradeoffs will matter more or less to different people.

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