iPad. How do you plan to get yours?

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Reply # 345798 27-Jun-2010 16:34

Based on comments on forums I was under the impression that the Apple Stores have waiting lists but whether they would add a name to the list based on a casual phone call from New Zealand might be questionable.

I'm fairly sure they won't even do that for people in Australia. I don't think a waiting list is merely phoning up and saying "please hold one". I've had Oz friends on that list and it included placing the order....then waiting til it arrived and order then being processed. Given that they'd need to take details from you, I suspect your other approach might be a better one.

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Reply # 345843 27-Jun-2010 20:33

alasta:
corksta: You can cancel at any point up until it ships.

Okay, it's sounding like a good plan then.

I'm predicting that NZ pre-orders will start in the next couple of weeks with delievery promised for late July, or perhaps pushed out to August. Ideally if someone over the ditch has what I want in stock at the time then I will pick one up when I'm over there in mid July, but failing that it won't be too long to wait to get one here.

Plus you need to remember that we can claim back the GST (10%) when leaving Australia, so it makes it even cheaper. So the 64GB Wi-Fi+3G ended up costing me about NZ$1165; I'll be surprised if the NZ pricing is anywhere near this amount once it's released.

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Reply # 345845 27-Jun-2010 20:36

corksta: Plus you need to remember that we can claim back the GST (10%) when leaving Australia, so it makes it even cheaper. So the 64GB Wi-Fi+3G ended up costing me about NZ$1165; I'll be surprised if the NZ pricing is anywhere near this amount once it's released.

Does that figure include the GST that you got stung for when you came back through NZ customs?

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Reply # 345848 27-Jun-2010 20:44

No it doesn't, I didn't factor that in because I think it'll be hit or miss whether you get stung or not. Obviously it's something to keep it in mind, but if you had the iPad in a case and left the box behind it will make things easier.

If you leave it in its box, have it in a carry-on bag like I did, then you'll have a much higher chance of being asked to pay!

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Reply # 345849 27-Jun-2010 20:50

corksta: No it doesn't, I didn't factor that in because I think it'll be hit or miss whether you get stung or not. Obviously it's something to keep it in mind, but if you had the iPad in a case and left the box behind it will make things easier.

If you leave it in its box, have it in a carry-on bag like I did, then you'll have a much higher chance of being asked to pay!

Okay, thanks, I'll keep that in mind!

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Reply # 345853 27-Jun-2010 21:04

I'm all for being honest and law abiding, but in this case, put it in a case, leave the box behind and let Customs prove it was purchased overseas!

In my case, they didn't even ask to see it, or ask for the receipt, they just took my word for its value so that'll teach me for being so honest! ;)

(I'm sure they would have had an idea anyway of the price of one).

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Reply # 345874 27-Jun-2010 22:14

"let Customs prove it was purchased overseas! "??? This is hilarious. The unit isn't for sale in NZ, so where else but overseas would you have purchased it? Under the Customs/Excise Act, you as the importer have an affirmative duty to declare an import, even after you have passed Customs and 'forgot' about the declaration. Customs has a right to investigate non-declarations for up to 2 years after the importation and they have indeed contacted some TradeMe sellers through TradeMe to verify that GST has been paid for goods offered for sale.

Remember, that Customs is usually quite user-friendly but if they get the feeling that you attempted to smuggle they can levy fines on top of the GST, and they have quite the spirit to do that when they believe a taxpayer is uncooperative.

No, you cannot reserve a unit. Like in the Apple Store, they will allow you to make an appointment to pick up a unit (but only if they have enough coming in, and that usually isn't the case), so the best way forward is to take your chances or have a local friend check daily for stock and buy for you.

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Reply # 345928 28-Jun-2010 08:19

toshcomputers: "let Customs prove it was purchased overseas! "??? This is hilarious. The unit isn't for sale in NZ, so where else but overseas would you have purchased it? .

But your business is selling them in New Zealand correct???

I also see you offer 'tax free' shipping. Is this for shipping them to overseas destinations or just local customers wanting to take a punt that customs don't stop it at the border?

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Reply # 345934 28-Jun-2010 08:42

toshcomputers: "let Customs prove it was purchased overseas! "??? This is hilarious. The unit isn't for sale in NZ, so where else but overseas would you have purchased it? Under the Customs/Excise Act, you as the importer have an affirmative duty to declare an import, even after you have passed Customs and 'forgot' about the declaration.

I definitely intend to declare it, and I will go ahead on the expectation that I will end up having to pay GST upon re-entry to New Zealand. If they don't collect the GST then that's a bonus, but I want to be conservative in understanding the full costs.

No, you cannot reserve a unit. Like in the Apple Store, they will allow you to make an appointment to pick up a unit (but only if they have enough coming in, and that usually isn't the case), so the best way forward is to take your chances or have a local friend check daily for stock and buy for you.

Thanks for the tip; it's definitely sounding like the best option. I'll be over there for a week and a half so hopefully someone will have some stock available at some point during that period.

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Reply # 345955 28-Jun-2010 09:57

You kind of have to laugh at those selling them on Trademe for 1800+.

Im all for someone making a quick buck but thats a bit excessive imo.

Ill definately think about getting one in Australia next time i am there.

I suppose you could put the box in your case and carry the ipad in handluggage.

I was kind of under the impression that if the item is being used personally at the time of travel (as a pose to imported in box, for sale purpases) then its pretty unlikely that you will be charged tax when entering the country?

My understanding might be a bit flawed though.

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Reply # 345957 28-Jun-2010 10:03

rossmnz:

I was kind of under the impression that if the item is being used personally at the time of travel (as a pose to imported in box, for sale purpases) then its pretty unlikely that you will be charged tax when entering the country?

Correct. If you had an ipad in your bag without anything obvious like a box/receipt I think it would be extremely unlikely you would be asked to pay GST unless you volunteered the info that it was purchased overseas.

I have probably imported 40-50 items over the last 10 years or so that could have attracted GST and have had to pay it less than 5 times. (And these occasions were only due to Fedex "pre-clearing" items through customs, which is why I don't use Fedex if possible, DHL also does this as well i think).

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Reply # 345958 28-Jun-2010 10:08

alasta: Thanks for the tip; it's definitely sounding like the best option. I'll be over there for a week and a half so hopefully someone will have some stock available at some point during that period.

From my experience in Melbourne, it seems like most of the shops would get stock at the beginning of the week, so that's probably going to be the best time to go shopping to maximise the chance of getting the model you want.

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Reply # 345962 28-Jun-2010 10:13

marmel: Correct. If you had an ipad in your bag without anything obvious like a box/receipt I think it would be extremely unlikely you would be asked to pay GST unless you volunteered the info that it was purchased overseas.

Given that your arrival card requires you to state whether you are carrying goods exceeding a certain value ($700?) purchased overseas, how could you not 'volunteer the info' without making a false declaration?

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Reply # 345963 28-Jun-2010 10:13

corksta:From my experience in Melbourne, it seems like most of the shops would get stock at the beginning of the week, so that's probably going to be the best time to go shopping to maximise the chance of getting the model you want.

Thanks. I'll bear that in mind.

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Reply # 345966 28-Jun-2010 10:18

toshcomputers: "let Customs prove it was purchased overseas! "??? This is hilarious. The unit isn't for sale in NZ, so where else but overseas would you have purchased it?

Right so the fact you, Parallel Imported, Trade Me, Mighty Ape sell them doesn't count for being available to buy in NZ?

Let Customs prove you are bringing one in to the country for the first time and hadn't already bought it in NZ from one of the above places.

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