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  Reply # 359019 29-Jul-2010 23:02
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NonprayingMantis:
it says "m.facebook.com"

m.facebook.com is not free.  0.facebook.com is free.

so yes, they probably do talk to each other.  they know the difference between m.facebook and 0.facebook



My bad on the m/0 mixup.




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  Reply # 359195 30-Jul-2010 06:19
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At least telecom is ready!

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 359375 30-Jul-2010 08:45
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So where exactly do you sign up for this offer? There is no 500mb offer on the site for postpaid plans only the text 2500..

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  Reply # 359466 30-Jul-2010 09:30
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NonprayingMantis:
graemeh:
munchkin:
graemeh:
freitasm: Just received from Telecom New Zealand:


Also, from 1 August for as little as $6, lower-level data users can now get a 50MB Data Extra, giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month*.



Dipsticks!  You get a brazillion Facebook page views per month and still don't get close to using up your 50mb because Facebook is free from Telecom.

Don't these marketing droids talk to each other!



It's based on being "equivalent to", ie, "approximating to" 5000 views via the 0.facebook.com service.


They said "giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month" they did not say equivalent to or approximating or similar to or anything else!



it says "m.facebook.com"

m.facebook.com is not free.  0.facebook.com is free.

so yes, they probably do talk to each other.  they know the difference between m.facebook and 0.facebook


Still stupid though.  Anyone would think they deliberately set out to confuse people.  They should have used a site that doesn't have free access.

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  Reply # 359503 30-Jul-2010 09:49
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graemeh:
NonprayingMantis:
graemeh:
munchkin:
graemeh:
freitasm: Just received from Telecom New Zealand:


Also, from 1 August for as little as $6, lower-level data users can now get a 50MB Data Extra, giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month*.



Dipsticks!  You get a brazillion Facebook page views per month and still don't get close to using up your 50mb because Facebook is free from Telecom.

Don't these marketing droids talk to each other!



It's based on being "equivalent to", ie, "approximating to" 5000 views via the 0.facebook.com service.


They said "giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month" they did not say equivalent to or approximating or similar to or anything else!



it says "m.facebook.com"

m.facebook.com is not free.  0.facebook.com is free.

so yes, they probably do talk to each other.  they know the difference between m.facebook and 0.facebook


Still stupid though.  Anyone would think they deliberately set out to confuse people.  They should have used a site that doesn't have free access.


yes, like m.facebook.com for example.

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  Reply # 359508 30-Jul-2010 09:52
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NonprayingMantis:
graemeh:
NonprayingMantis:
graemeh:
munchkin:
graemeh:
freitasm: Just received from Telecom New Zealand:


Also, from 1 August for as little as $6, lower-level data users can now get a 50MB Data Extra, giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month*.



Dipsticks!  You get a brazillion Facebook page views per month and still don't get close to using up your 50mb because Facebook is free from Telecom.

Don't these marketing droids talk to each other!



It's based on being "equivalent to", ie, "approximating to" 5000 views via the 0.facebook.com service.


They said "giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month" they did not say equivalent to or approximating or similar to or anything else!



it says "m.facebook.com"

m.facebook.com is not free.  0.facebook.com is free.

so yes, they probably do talk to each other.  they know the difference between m.facebook and 0.facebook


Still stupid though.  Anyone would think they deliberately set out to confuse people.  They should have used a site that doesn't have free access.


yes, like m.facebook.com for example.


To clarify - 0.facebook.com and m.facebook.com are two entirely different sites. 0.facebook.com is a very basic, lightweight text only version of the Facebook site. m.facebook.com is the fully featured Facebook mobile site. Data is zero rated on 0.facebook.com only.

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  Reply # 359516 30-Jul-2010 09:56
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oxnsox: Wait till tomorrow....


Still waiting. 

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  Reply # 359563 30-Jul-2010 10:17
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NonprayingMantis:
graemeh:
NonprayingMantis:
graemeh:
munchkin:
graemeh:
freitasm: Just received from Telecom New Zealand:


Also, from 1 August for as little as $6, lower-level data users can now get a 50MB Data Extra, giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month*.



Dipsticks!  You get a brazillion Facebook page views per month and still don't get close to using up your 50mb because Facebook is free from Telecom.

Don't these marketing droids talk to each other!



It's based on being "equivalent to", ie, "approximating to" 5000 views via the 0.facebook.com service.


They said "giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month" they did not say equivalent to or approximating or similar to or anything else!



it says "m.facebook.com"

m.facebook.com is not free.  0.facebook.com is free.

so yes, they probably do talk to each other.  they know the difference between m.facebook and 0.facebook


Still stupid though.  Anyone would think they deliberately set out to confuse people.  They should have used a site that doesn't have free access.


yes, like m.facebook.com for example.


Yeah Right.  Just keep saying it and you'll convince yourself you are right.

The message didn't say m.facebook or even 0.facebook, it just said "facebook page views".  People don't read footnotes, they're not meant to.  It is an attempt to protect the company from legal action when people are mislead.  Every so often companies get slapped with a wet bus ticket for saying things like this but usually they get away with it.

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  Reply # 359568 30-Jul-2010 10:18
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SaltyNZ:
freitasm: Just received from Telecom New Zealand:
Also, from 1 August for as little as $6, lower-level data users can now get a 50MB Data Extra, giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month*.


Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!



Yep it is.... , Guess it will be reverse double flattery when you launch your 3g Network on Tuesday Wink




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  Reply # 359577 30-Jul-2010 10:22
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Ok guys so just to clear up:

1/ yes we did mean 2500 texts
2/ yes 0.facebook.com is zero rated and some smart phones do go through our proxy so this is available to them
3/ If you want to port from Vodafone to Telecom, we have a deal on at the moment which details are here: http://store.telecom.co.nz/mobile/special-offers/500-credit

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  Reply # 359581 30-Jul-2010 10:24
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graemeh:
NonprayingMantis:
graemeh:
NonprayingMantis:
graemeh:
munchkin:
graemeh:
freitasm: Just received from Telecom New Zealand:


Also, from 1 August for as little as $6, lower-level data users can now get a 50MB Data Extra, giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month*.



Dipsticks!  You get a brazillion Facebook page views per month and still don't get close to using up your 50mb because Facebook is free from Telecom.

Don't these marketing droids talk to each other!



It's based on being "equivalent to", ie, "approximating to" 5000 views via the 0.facebook.com service.


They said "giving customers approximately five thousand Facebook page views per month" they did not say equivalent to or approximating or similar to or anything else!



it says "m.facebook.com"

m.facebook.com is not free.  0.facebook.com is free.

so yes, they probably do talk to each other.  they know the difference between m.facebook and 0.facebook


Still stupid though.  Anyone would think they deliberately set out to confuse people.  They should have used a site that doesn't have free access.


yes, like m.facebook.com for example.


Yeah Right.  Just keep saying it and you'll convince yourself you are right.

The message didn't say m.facebook or even 0.facebook, it just said "facebook page views".  People don't read footnotes, they're not meant to.  It is an attempt to protect the company from legal action when people are mislead.  Every so often companies get slapped with a wet bus ticket for saying things like this but usually they get away with it.


The offer is 50MB of data, not 5000 Facebook page views, so it's quite clear this is just a guideline and not any kind of guarantee or product. It gives a generally accurate idea of what '50MB' means to someone who may not know, and allows them to compare.

If you actually look at the media release it reads 'The data quantity example is an estimate only based on billed activity for internet use browsing m.facebook.com on a mobile phone. Actual data amounts transferred will vary.'

I don't think you can get much clearer than that!

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  Reply # 359592 30-Jul-2010 10:33
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Also to sign up visit a Telecom store they'll sort you all out :)

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  Reply # 359623 30-Jul-2010 10:46
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Why can't you sign up for the offer online, the 1gb offer that is?

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  Reply # 359651 30-Jul-2010 11:00
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scooby101: The offer is 50MB of data, not 5000 Facebook page views, so it's quite clear this is just a guideline and not any kind of guarantee or product. It gives a generally accurate idea of what '50MB' means to someone who may not know, and allows them to compare.

If you actually look at the media release it reads 'The data quantity example is an estimate only based on billed activity for internet use browsing m.facebook.com on a mobile phone. Actual data amounts transferred will vary.'

I don't think you can get much clearer than that!


LOL - Don't get me started on the stupidity of a charging model where you charge based on something that your customer's dont understand and have no easy way of measuring. :)

Ask any person how much data is transferred for a given activity and very few will have any real idea.  Just think how many customer calls / complaints this leads to.

It's a flawed billing model.

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  Reply # 359699 30-Jul-2010 11:26
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Don't believe it's flawed, it's trying to give clarity to all those that have no real concept or interest in megabits and megabytes

Most folk have little idea of how much data is in a tweet or FB update... but they may know approximately how many times they access the pages or receive updates.

It's all transitional hype anyway, right now it's the Telcos who can analyse data usage and try and predetermine plans that best encompass the way people use the devices (I doubt options like 1000 txts, or similar, a month were a stab in dark...)

In time people won't be focused on data caps sizes as they'll simply be sufficient for their needs. Their real concern will be on getting the right device that meets their personal social/business networking needs.

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