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#542668 8-Nov-2011 15:45

I have just spoken to my local vodafone store and they are ordering in 4 iphone 4s for my business and can pick up monday morning (public holiday in canterbury on friday). I don't see what the problem with vodafones current pricing is. I upgraded 8 of our mobiles onto vodafones business smart packages. Telecom cant get near these on value. I pay $150 per month get 1000 free minutes, free to call all landlines, have landline on mobile (which means my clients can call a landline number and not pay for the mobile charges, nor do I) plus reasonable data. The nearest telecom can get is 500 free minutes for $140 without the above extras. Plus vodafone gave me $1100 towards a new phone, which makes the 4s free also!! The only benifit to telecom is better data and maybe better coverage and speeds, but overall hard to beat VF.

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#542671 8-Nov-2011 15:50

gimpy707: I have just spoken to my local vodafone store and they are ordering in 4 iphone 4s for my business and can pick up monday morning (public holiday in canterbury on friday). I don't see what the problem with vodafones current pricing is. I upgraded 8 of our mobiles onto vodafones business smart packages. Telecom cant get near these on value. I pay $150 per month get 1000 free minutes, free to call all landlines, have landline on mobile (which means my clients can call a landline number and not pay for the mobile charges, nor do I) plus reasonable data. The nearest telecom can get is 500 free minutes for $140 without the above extras. Plus vodafone gave me $1100 towards a new phone, which makes the 4s free also!! The only benifit to telecom is better data and maybe better coverage and speeds, but overall hard to beat VF.

Well for consumers it's not quite as rosy

for 24 months
                VF                Telecom
price         $85                $80
minutes   300              200
texts 2500    300
data         250mb              1gb
handset   879 (32gb 4)     299 (32gb 4S)

Ok, the minutes are better, but I could care less about 2500 texts (not being a teenage girl) and the data is a quarter of what telecom are offering for $5 less a month. That's before we even get to the handset price.

Now, I realise this is not a fair comparison as VF have not released their 4S pricing yet, but the point is that Telecom have and are taking pre-orders now. I know several people who've already pre-ordered from telecom. VF need to get their act together and start releasing info. They are literally losing customers every hour.

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#542673 8-Nov-2011 15:52

jmosen: A quick search of the Telecom site hasn't revealed the answers to some questions I have.

If you're heading into a store to sign a contract with Telecom, what do you need to take with you. Not keen to wait in line only to find they want something I don't have.

I'm a Telecom custoemr for broadband and home phone, so is a print-out from the PDF of my recent bill sufficient?

I have a family member who is interested but currently has no Telecom account. Presumably he'll need some form of ID? How many do Telecom need and what is acceptable for ID? He doesn't drive.

Photo ID of either a NZ photo drivers license or a Passport,

If you do not have any of the above forms of photo ID the following is acceptable:

Provide any 2 of the following originals:
- birth certificate
- citizenship certificate
- marriage certificate
- current NZ work visa
- Letter from NZ immigration department.

OR any 1 of the above secondary ID's plus any 1 of the following:
- a revised bank statement (last 3 months)
- computerised payslip
- letter from IRD or WINZ
- student loan statement

NB: At least 1 of these 2 forms of ID must confirm your date of birth.

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#542677 8-Nov-2011 15:57

gimpy707: [...] The nearest telecom can get is 500 free minutes for $140 without the above extras. [...]

Telecom currently have a double-minutes promotion for business smartphone plans.

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codyc1515:
cathy88: I just had a looking at Vodafone's iPhone plan for iPhone 4 and found it ridiculous.
Did they change the price? I remember it was different when I got my iPhone 4 with them on a
contract.

Yes, they changed the pricing a few months ago. I went through this in detail on here a while back, the price on the $45 plan increased from $619 to $999 or so.

WOW.

If thats the price for new plan might as well not get a plan with them .....

Compare the prices for the iPhone 4 and 3G|S on Vodafone to those on Telecom:

On Vodafone:

iPhone 3G|S on Telecom:

iPhone 4 on Telecom:

Comparative pricing @ $85/month vs. $80/month means you'll be saving quite a bit when you take the handset cost into account, and you'll be getting more data too.

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#542678 8-Nov-2011 16:00

I just wish Telecom had an easy way to add ad-hoc data onto a smartphone plan similar to 2degrees. If i was part way through my month on a 2G plan I might want to buy an extra 1G or more to see me though.

Otherwise the 4GS pricing looks very good.

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#542696 8-Nov-2011 16:49

Lizard1977: My wife will be getting a 4S on Friday (hoping the queues won't be too bad in Palmy). The Telecom plans are looking pretty good, but I wanted to check whether the iPhone performs better on Vodafone or XT? My iPhone is on Vodafone and the 3G internet can be underwhelming at time I seem to recall reading that XT was better. Anyone who has used both want to confirm that XT is better for iPhones? Particularly in Palmerston North?

I've found Xt better in palmy than vodafone/2D with the Iphone4.

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#542714 8-Nov-2011 17:22

Anyone else notice the iPhone 4 (not S) is $30 cheaper and the 3GS is $10 cheaper than from the Apple Store?

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#542724 8-Nov-2011 17:43

Question about number porting related to a pending iPhone order on telecom. Can you sign-up to telecom, get a telecom number and then port your vodafone number over to it in a months time? i.e. port your number later? or must it be done at the time you sign the contract?

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#542726 8-Nov-2011 17:48

benmurphy66: Question about number porting related to a pending iPhone order on telecom. Can you sign-up to telecom, get a telecom number and then port your vodafone number over to it in a months time? i.e. port your number later? or must it be done at the time you sign the contract?

I'm quite sure you can do it at a later date, the only problem I might see is that you would have to go into a store or give them a call.

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#542740 8-Nov-2011 18:22

codyc1515:
JimmyC: Anyone know if the 4S's new HSPA capabilities will provide better speed on VFNZ and\or XT?

It does have HSPA+ but nowhere on the Apple website does it say this. It does 14.4Mbps HSPA+.
Quote: "UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz); GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)"
http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html

Edited

HSPA+ is NOT the same thing as HSPA. The Iphone 4S is only a HSPA device, not HSPA+. HSPA is essentially a term for a network/device that supports HSDPA 14.4 and HSUPA 5.76.

As for speed gains if you're connected to a site on either network that supports HSPA 14.4 you'll see good speeds, and you'll also be able to get up to 5.76Mbps upstream on Vodafone. XT haven't deployed 5.76 HSUPA so speeds will be a maximum of 2Mbps.

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#542745 8-Nov-2011 18:25

SnowWookie: VF need to get their act together and start releasing info. They are literally losing customers every hour.

Much to the contracy - Vodafone aren't losing customers, but Telecom are being very aggressive in their marketing to attract new customers as they have been losing out in the mobile market. These deals are no different to picking up a free SGS II or the long running $800 account credit for signing up with an iPhone.

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#542750 8-Nov-2011 18:47

Why are Vodafone claiming to be under NDA? I can understand why they couldn't say when the iPhone 4S was going to be released before Apple said so, but now the date has been released, Apple has started their own preorders last week and Telecom start theirs today, why would Vodafone be under any form of confidentiality agreement to Apple as there's no secrets!?

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#542759 8-Nov-2011 19:05

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#542763 8-Nov-2011 19:09

Teeps: Why are Vodafone claiming to be under NDA? I can understand why they couldn't say when the iPhone 4S was going to be released before Apple said so, but now the date has been released, Apple has started their own preorders last week and Telecom start theirs today, why would Vodafone be under any form of confidentiality agreement to Apple as there's no secrets!?

Vodafone's "NDA" response is pretty comical. I have a strong feeling that "NDA" really means "Telecom caught us flat-out with those much lower handset subsidies, aaaahhhh what do we do?"

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#542764 8-Nov-2011 19:11

rawsoncj: Vodafone's "NDA" response is pretty comical. I have a strong feeling that "NDA" really means "Telecom caught us flat-out with those much lower handset subsidies, aaaahhhh what do we do?"

Sounds accurate to me

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