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#543771 10-Nov-2011 15:20

If you click "additional details" on the XT plan selection website for the 4s, it states:

If you decide to join us with a Postpaid monthly plan for a fixed term and then find you need to end the term early, then there will be some early disconnection charges or repayment of the mobile subsidy if you chose to receive one.

That suggests that if you sign up tonight, and cancel after thirteen months (next Christmas) to buy a new model, you'll repay the full subsidy. i.e. if you sign up to the $80pm plan, you'll get a $900 subsidy on the phone now, but pay it back in a year if you upgrade.

Crazy, if correct.

I would sign up to the plan tonight, if there was any certainty about cancellation fees. Not even because I intend to cancel; but it is important to know what happens if I do need to. Signing a contract with anyone before then seems foolish. Vodafone are saying inconsistent things on the phone to their website as well.

Would be good if the Telecom employee(s) on here could give a clear answer on this matter.

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#543772 10-Nov-2011 15:20

Loismustdye: I've gotta use my prepay credit unfortunately before I can go in to my local XT and get the 64 Gb version.
Im guessing they will be hardest to get at first, but I'm still trying to chew through my leftover credit as quick as possible lol.

You could pop your prepay sim into the 4S and use it there. But I guess if you're getting one on contract theres not much point

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#543773 10-Nov-2011 15:20

Loismustdye: I've gotta use my prepay credit unfortunately before I can go in to my local XT and get the 64 Gb version.
Im guessing they will be hardest to get at first, but I'm still trying to chew through my leftover credit as quick as possible lol.

You can move your existing credit over to a new account (at least you could in 2009 when I switched from prepaid to a plan).

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#543775 10-Nov-2011 15:21

Vodafone has released their plans!!

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#543776 10-Nov-2011 15:21

akia:

No one is lining up to see me yet :(

Aww... I've been in three times today to talk to someone about porting but all the staff have been busy, or not at the desk. I'll keep trying.

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#543777 10-Nov-2011 15:22

Fabian: Vodafone has released their plans!!

You are late... Look six pages back.

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#543778 10-Nov-2011 15:22

Fabian: Vodafone has released their plans!!

See page 38...

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#543780 10-Nov-2011 15:23

I thought I might be too late!!! Sorry guys

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#543782 10-Nov-2011 15:26

"...We heard a rumour that @midnightyouth will be performing at Vodafone Queen Street Auckland tonight from 10pm ^ME"

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#543784 10-Nov-2011 15:27

codyc1515:
Loismustdye: I've gotta use my prepay credit unfortunately before I can go in to my local XT and get the 64 Gb version.
Im guessing they will be hardest to get at first, but I'm still trying to chew through my leftover credit as quick as possible lol.

You can't transfer it over? I think Vodafone lets you do this.

I haven't really looked into it, but I don't have many people on telecom prepay anyways that I could gift it to, and its only another $17 left on credit to use up.

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#543789 10-Nov-2011 15:35

CommanderKeen: If you click "additional details" on the XT plan selection website for the 4s, it states:

If you decide to join us with a Postpaid monthly plan for a fixed term and then find you need to end the term early, then there will be some early disconnection charges or repayment of the mobile subsidy if you chose to receive one.

That suggests that if you sign up tonight, and cancel after thirteen months (next Christmas) to buy a new model, you'll repay the full subsidy. i.e. if you sign up to the $80pm plan, you'll get a $900 subsidy on the phone now, but pay it back in a year if you upgrade.

Crazy, if correct.

I would sign up to the plan tonight, if there was any certainty about cancellation fees. Not even because I intend to cancel; but it is important to know what happens if I do need to. Signing a contract with anyone before then seems foolish. Vodafone are saying inconsistent things on the phone to their website as well.

Would be good if the Telecom employee(s) on here could give a clear answer on this matter.

My understanding is the word has "or" not "and", so basically you need to pay early disconnection fees.

CommanderKeen

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#543792 10-Nov-2011 15:37

johnz79:
CommanderKeen: If you click "additional details" on the XT plan selection website for the 4s, it states:

If you decide to join us with a Postpaid monthly plan for a fixed term and then find you need to end the term early, then there will be some early disconnection charges or repayment of the mobile subsidy if you chose to receive one.

That suggests that if you sign up tonight, and cancel after thirteen months (next Christmas) to buy a new model, you'll repay the full subsidy. i.e. if you sign up to the $80pm plan, you'll get a $900 subsidy on the phone now, but pay it back in a year if you upgrade.

Crazy, if correct.

I would sign up to the plan tonight, if there was any certainty about cancellation fees. Not even because I intend to cancel; but it is important to know what happens if I do need to. Signing a contract with anyone before then seems foolish. Vodafone are saying inconsistent things on the phone to their website as well.

Would be good if the Telecom employee(s) on here could give a clear answer on this matter.

My understanding is the word has "or" not "and", so basically you need to pay early disconnection fees.

I agree that "or" means one or the other (not both), but surely Telecom will choose which one it is - not you. And if Telecom chooses "repayment of the mobile subsidy" then you're pretty much screwed big time.

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#543804 10-Nov-2011 15:51

CommanderKeen:
johnz79:
CommanderKeen: If you click "additional details" on the XT plan selection website for the 4s, it states:

If you decide to join us with a Postpaid monthly plan for a fixed term and then find you need to end the term early, then there will be some early disconnection charges or repayment of the mobile subsidy if you chose to receive one.

That suggests that if you sign up tonight, and cancel after thirteen months (next Christmas) to buy a new model, you'll repay the full subsidy. i.e. if you sign up to the $80pm plan, you'll get a $900 subsidy on the phone now, but pay it back in a year if you upgrade.

Crazy, if correct.

I would sign up to the plan tonight, if there was any certainty about cancellation fees. Not even because I intend to cancel; but it is important to know what happens if I do need to. Signing a contract with anyone before then seems foolish. Vodafone are saying inconsistent things on the phone to their website as well.

Would be good if the Telecom employee(s) on here could give a clear answer on this matter.

My understanding is the word has "or" not "and", so basically you need to pay early disconnection fees.

I agree that "or" means one or the other (not both), but surely Telecom will choose which one it is - not you. And if Telecom chooses "repayment of the mobile subsidy" then you're pretty much screwed big time.

It’s just repaying the money that you were given in exchange for committing to a length of time contract. If you want to get out of the contract before that time is up then it seems fair that you pay back the money.

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#543805 10-Nov-2011 15:54

NonprayingMantis:
CommanderKeen:
johnz79:
CommanderKeen: If you click "additional details" on the XT plan selection website for the 4s, it states:

If you decide to join us with a Postpaid monthly plan for a fixed term and then find you need to end the term early, then there will be some early disconnection charges or repayment of the mobile subsidy if you chose to receive one.

That suggests that if you sign up tonight, and cancel after thirteen months (next Christmas) to buy a new model, you'll repay the full subsidy. i.e. if you sign up to the $80pm plan, you'll get a $900 subsidy on the phone now, but pay it back in a year if you upgrade.

Crazy, if correct.

I would sign up to the plan tonight, if there was any certainty about cancellation fees. Not even because I intend to cancel; but it is important to know what happens if I do need to. Signing a contract with anyone before then seems foolish. Vodafone are saying inconsistent things on the phone to their website as well.

Would be good if the Telecom employee(s) on here could give a clear answer on this matter.

My understanding is the word has "or" not "and", so basically you need to pay early disconnection fees.

I agree that "or" means one or the other (not both), but surely Telecom will choose which one it is - not you. And if Telecom chooses "repayment of the mobile subsidy" then you're pretty much screwed big time.

It’s just repaying the money that you were given in exchange for committing to a length of time contract. If you want to get out of the contract before that time is up then it seems fair that you pay back the money.

I think its only fair that you repay the amount that you haven't already paid, say you are on a 24 month contract and you have been in the contract for 12 months you should only have to pay back half of the subsidy.

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#543806 10-Nov-2011 15:56

NonprayingMantis:

It’s just repaying the money that you were given in exchange for committing to a length of time contract. If you want to get out of the contract before that time is up then it seems fair that you pay back the money.

True, except:

a) On most plans the penalty decreases the further you get through the plan; and
b) The monthly price for services (here $80) is usually artificially inflated so that the carrier earns back the subsidy over time.

So, repaying the full subsidy after more than half the term doesn't seem right.

As I said, a cancellation fee is fair in principle, but it'd be good to have full information before signing a two year agreement.

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