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Topic # 148773 30-Jun-2014 19:06
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As per title - after a wireless ADSL modem/router for my parents, who own a large house with no ability to locate the router centrally.

Ideally I'd prefer a dual-band router, but would certainly consider something more basic as long as the range is excellent.

Any recommendations for an ideal router would also be appreciated. 

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  Reply # 1077257 30-Jun-2014 19:06
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  Reply # 1077271 30-Jun-2014 19:09
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  Reply # 1077272 30-Jun-2014 19:15
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michaelmurfy: Mikrotik 951Ui-2HnD - covers my house fine (and THAT is a big house)

http://www.gowifi.co.nz/coming-soon-new-products/mikrotik-rb951ui-2hnd-high-power-802.11n-wireless-router.html



That's great to hear, and it's a good price too (which is important in this case!). Thanks for pointing me in this direction.

That said, this is a router, whereas it's also about time they replaced the modem part of their current m/r (an Asus WL600G) as well (though I guess this would run fine as the router off their current unit until that dies). Does it matter what modem they use?

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  Reply # 1077364 30-Jun-2014 21:30
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You mean it'll run fine as an access point.




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  Reply # 1077365 30-Jun-2014 21:32
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Trying to deliver WiFi to a large house in a typical urban environment with a single AP can now be a lost cause with the amount of 2.4Ghz RF noise around. The best approach is multiple APs with Ethernet over power adapters if you can't run cat5e cable to connect the APs.


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  Reply # 1077369 30-Jun-2014 21:39
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sbiddle: Trying to deliver WiFi to a large house in a typical urban environment with a single AP can now be a lost cause with the amount of 2.4Ghz RF noise around. The best approach is multiple APs with Ethernet over power adapters if you can't run cat5e cable to connect the APs.



I just blast out 1w of wireless instead :)




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  Reply # 1077428 30-Jun-2014 22:24
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michaelmurfy:
sbiddle: Trying to deliver WiFi to a large house in a typical urban environment with a single AP can now be a lost cause with the amount of 2.4Ghz RF noise around. The best approach is multiple APs with Ethernet over power adapters if you can't run cat5e cable to connect the APs.



I just blast out 1w of wireless instead :)


Yeah I've debated the idea of using a power line to the room with the TV and connecting an old router to that as an AP, but they are getting worried their router will need replacing soon anyway. Guess I could go with an average quality new m/r, also buy a pair of power line adaptors, and use their old router as the AP off this.

I was looking at two models sold by TPLink- is it worth the additional $20sh to get the 411 over the 211 model? It's prime use will be for their Apple TV.

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  Reply # 1077803 1-Jul-2014 12:57
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michaelmurfy:
sbiddle: Trying to deliver WiFi to a large house in a typical urban environment with a single AP can now be a lost cause with the amount of 2.4Ghz RF noise around. The best approach is multiple APs with Ethernet over power adapters if you can't run cat5e cable to connect the APs.



I just blast out 1w of wireless instead :)


I tried that, and the phone would show it and try to connect to it from the road at over 100m away, but it never worked. All thru the house the phones would be trying to hop onto the accesspoint in the garage that was coming in at -70ish and not work.

IME the only way to get reliable wifi coverage is many accesspoints with the power down low enough that the phoens will connect to a better one when needed.




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  Reply # 1078504 2-Jul-2014 10:56
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sbiddle: Trying to deliver WiFi to a large house in a typical urban environment with a single AP can now be a lost cause with the amount of 2.4Ghz RF noise around. The best approach is multiple APs with Ethernet over power adapters if you can't run cat5e cable to connect the APs.



Are all Ethernet over power adapter connections created equal? I have a 100Mbit pair at home and file transfer speeds across LAN to and from a media server are really slow (7Mbits), really on par with other wifi-N connected PCs.

Both adaptors are plugged in first to wall with multiboxes on top.

Looking at getting some gigabit adaptors, but surely 100Mbt should have half decent connection speeds. Perhaps the bottleneck is in the power cabling?

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sbiddle: Trying to deliver WiFi to a large house in a typical urban environment with a single AP can now be a lost cause with the amount of 2.4Ghz RF noise around. The best approach is multiple APs with Ethernet over power adapters if you can't run cat5e cable to connect the APs.



Are all Ethernet over power adapter connections created equal? I have a 100Mbit pair at home and file transfer speeds across LAN to and from a media server are really slow (7Mbits), really on par with other wifi-N connected PCs.

Both adaptors are plugged in first to wall with multiboxes on top.

Looking at getting some gigabit adaptors, but surely 100Mbt should have half decent connection speeds. Perhaps the bottleneck is in the power cabling?


I got some cheap "500Mbps" adapters from Aliexpress (~$50 for 3!).  I saw 80Mbps through them once but in my house 20Mbps seems to be the normal throughput.  My wife noticed that the Netflix quality improved, though.

Still better than the old "100Mbps" Netgear adapters I had -- single digits Mbps, and the link fell over all the time.



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  Reply # 1078565 2-Jul-2014 12:39
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I didn't think about buying powerline adapters online from overseas - I ended up buying my parents the 500MB units from Computer Lounge, given it was only $14 difference (though at $88sh for two it's not quite as cheap as Ali Express!). I thought I should do what I can to maximise data speeds through to the TV lounge, should they want to use Netflix on the Apple TV for example.

Should I be ensuring that their new modem/router has gigabit ports so to maximise speed between the router and the other end of the powerline adapters (especially having bought the 500MB models)? Or, given the likely 'real-world' speed of the adapters would a standard 10/100 modem/router do the trick?

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