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K8Toledo
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  #2534568 4-Aug-2020 15:19
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wellygary:

 

33coupe:

 

@K8Toledo, how much for 100m of CAT6?

 

 

 

 

For a new build, get a 300m roll..... You will use more than 100m....

 

 

Perhaps...depends on the premises. :)


wellygary
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  #2534579 4-Aug-2020 15:34
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33coupe:

 

[The garage wall. I havent met with the sparky yet, so am trying to get everything sorted before meeting them  

 

 

I would look at getting a conduit run before they pour the slab and get them the run the Fibre into the storage cupboard area, then everything is a shorter run and will you get more bang for your Cat 6 buck....

 

 

 

If you had to run cables to each red point from an external garage wall you are looking at 9 runs @8-10 m + 5-6 metres to get up and down the walls ( on average) means 9 runs at say 14 meters = 126 m - 10 metres for the roof moutings = ~115 

 

If you go to a central ONT you can get away with 4 long runs ( 10-15 metres) but 5 short 5m ones, (+ the wall up/down) meaning less than well under 100m

 

( all are back of envelope calculations )

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


33coupe

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  #2534581 4-Aug-2020 15:42
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wellygary:

 

33coupe:

 

[The garage wall. I havent met with the sparky yet, so am trying to get everything sorted before meeting them  

 

 

I would look at getting a conduit run before they pour the slab and get them the run the Fibre into the storage cupboard area, then everything is a shorter run and will you get more bang for your Cat 6 buck....

 

 

 

If you had to run cables to each red point from an external garage wall you are looking at 9 runs @8-10 m + 5-6 metres to get up and down the walls ( on average) means 9 runs at say 14 meters = 126 m - 10 metres for the roof moutings = ~115 

 

If you go to a central ONT you can get away with 4 long runs ( 10-15 metres) but 5 short 5m ones, (+ the wall up/down) meaning less than well under 100m

 

( all are back of envelope calculations )

 

 

 

 

Thanks for that. I was also wondering the same thing, but that would mean losing a storage cupboard. I dont think the other half would be too happy about that lol. Think I'd have just have longer runs of cat6


wellygary
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  #2534587 4-Aug-2020 15:50
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33coupe:

 

 

 

Thanks for that. I was also wondering the same thing, but that would mean losing a storage cupboard. I dont think the other half would be too happy about that lol. Think I'd have just have longer runs of cat6

 

 

You wont loose cupboard space , [you are not installing a rack mount or anything :)]

 

Get a small comms board installed into the cupboard wall and its all done. out of sight,  no loss of space

 

https://www.trical.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Trical-Product-Price-Guide-2020-Home-Networking-Enclosures.pdf


K8Toledo
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  #2534632 4-Aug-2020 17:17
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33coupe:

 

Just a quick update. I'm after the following if anyone has one for sale:

 

 

 

Im hoping @kopkiwi still has some speaker cable 

 

3m subwoofer cable

 

@K8Toledo, how much for 100m of CAT6?

 

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

PM sent.


33coupe

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  #2535106 5-Aug-2020 13:03
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wellygary:

 

33coupe:

 

 

 

Thanks for that. I was also wondering the same thing, but that would mean losing a storage cupboard. I dont think the other half would be too happy about that lol. Think I'd have just have longer runs of cat6

 

 

You wont loose cupboard space , [you are not installing a rack mount or anything :)]

 

Get a small comms board installed into the cupboard wall and its all done. out of sight,  no loss of space

 

https://www.trical.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Trical-Product-Price-Guide-2020-Home-Networking-Enclosures.pdf

 

 

 

 

Oh really, I thought it might have taken up room, with a patch panel etc. But this side of tech I have no idea on, and am keen to know about!


33coupe

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  #2536075 7-Aug-2020 09:02
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Thanks for the info I have asked about a conduit run before the slab. 

 

 

 

Just an update, if anyone has 100m of speaker cable sitting around they want to part with please let me know.

 

I would have thought the house build comes with a comms board enclosure, but cant see it on my list. I might get one just in case. Does anyone have one for sale?

 

 

 

Thanks


 
 
 
 


Psilan
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  #2536076 7-Aug-2020 09:04
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I have 2x Unifi AC-LRs. In Chch.

 

I have have either 50m or 100m of 4 core 14AWG cable. Will get specs. Don't need it anymore because my installer used his own cable instead.


Psilan
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  #2536077 7-Aug-2020 09:06
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Cable is;

 

Dynamix 100M 4 Conductor 14AWG/208mm2 Audio Cable 85mm $99.69
x (7/15/016BC) x 4C + Cotton Yarn OFC Conductor Meter Marked
Colours: Black/Red & Black/Red.

 

Brand new, still 'glad wrapped'


sen8or
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  #2536096 7-Aug-2020 09:56
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Not sure if you have purchased the stereo / av gear yet or not, but if interested in either Denon/Marantz or Onkyo/Integra for av receivers and KEF or Wharefedale/B&W I can sort out some pricing for you if you wish. PM me if interested with model numbers


Psilan
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  #2549424 25-Aug-2020 13:22
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@33coupe - still alive? 🙃


rodimus
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  #2549442 25-Aug-2020 13:52
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If you're still interested.

 

I've just recently installed

 

a 2x camera system EUFY system at home been running for a week now.

 

various unifi gear 

 

Can get pricing on yamaha, sonos + various speakers, AV receivers too.

 

Also have mounts/ cabinets/ Racks.

 

Let me know if you have any questions or would like pricing. 


33coupe

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  #2549453 25-Aug-2020 14:05
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Omg I'm so sorry, I thought I had replied and up to date with posts etc.

The builder said I might not be able to provide my own speaker cable/ cat6 due to warranty /master builder guarantee, but will need to talk to electrician (which will be once consent is given)
I will also ask about owner supply patch port and cabinet

Due to the build credit diminishing pretty fast, I will try and persuade for owner supply/install on these as I'm sure materials would be cheaper second hand.

I do already have speakers (would love to upgrade, but def no chance for a while),
Receiver and projector.


I am still interested in getting eufy cameras @rodimus if you're able to get a price for me please?

All the other things I will definitely report back once I've spoken to sparky /project manager.

Sorry and thanks

rodimus
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  #2549516 25-Aug-2020 15:12
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Supporting locals I purchased my EUFY from here: Price seemed cheaper than elsewhere..

 

https://www.bunnings.co.nz/eufy-cam-plus-2-pack-plus-entry-sensor_p0188147

 

 

 

A few notes:

 

 

 

-this doesn't give you 24/7 recording motion triggering only. 

 

-The unit connects wirelessly to a base wifi unit so I presume all your cameras would have to be in range of that one base unit. 

 

+the two way mic and human recognition is great but position your cameras to suit. 

 

+Motion sensitivity/zones and away home/geofencing is available too. 

 

+I'm happy with the triggering at the moment. 

 

 

 

 

 

Other notes on House wiring: 

 

Don't forget to run a cable just in case for your doorbell/camera doorbell. 


33coupe

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  #2561205 9-Sep-2020 16:49
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Just a quick update. My project manager has said I can run my own cat6 / speaker cable (which is good and bad cos I'll have to buy/supply my own gear)

 

 

 

I think I will run cat6 from ONT in garage to comms in hallway cupboard (thats what sparky said to do)

 

So after lots of reading, I think this is my plan / things I now also need.

 

 

 

1) Recessed Network enclosure (will this fit my Eufy Homebase, Philips Hue bridge, modem, switch, patch panel?) 

 

2) Switch (Would I need one with 2 x POE for my Unify APs or do I have that wrong?)

 

3) Patch Panel 

 

4) wall plates

 

5) RJ45 connectors 

 

6) is my current Modem sufficient? Netgear D6400

 

7) punchdown krone / tool

 

8) crimper

 

 

 

If anyone has any for sale (or can recommend any), please let me know. This is all new to me, so trying to learn.

 

 

 

Thanks


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