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Ultimate Geek

  # 557296 13-Dec-2011 09:19
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Yesterday saw another day of lies and broken promises.  Still no phone and no money. 

This guy is just taking me for a ride.  

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Ultimate Geek

  # 558633 16-Dec-2011 10:54
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For anyone that is interested, still nothing.  This guy is taking the p*ss. 

More of the same, every excuse under the sun.   Done a runner with my money, and I am down the phone as a xmas gift.  

Not happy at all. I never stuff people around like this, and this guy just does not care. 

Man, how I wish I NEVER made contact to buy this phone.  


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  # 558656 16-Dec-2011 12:00
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As someone else who has also been 'turned over' by a seller on Geekzone you have my sympathy.

I was lucky in that the item was in Wellington. I insisted on paying cash, in person, and although I was messed about with the meetings and the laptop was not what I was sold at least I had something in my hand which has fitted a purpose even if not the one intended.

Just goes to show you cant be too careful.

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Ultimate Geek

  # 558659 16-Dec-2011 12:03
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What a shame! Sorry to hear things went bad for you too. 

I am just amazed people are like that. I guess I am to trusting.  Puts a bad light on everything.  

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  # 558902 17-Dec-2011 08:40
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freitasm: After a quite searching using his email address I found this person has also been scamming people in other forums - see gpforums and iphonewzealand.


Since the OP seems to know the alleged fraudster's personal details as noted in an earlier post, I would say he should contact the authorities and end this person's larcenous behaviour.

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Ultimate Geek

  # 558903 17-Dec-2011 08:45
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freitasm: After a quite searching using his email address I found this person has also been scamming people in other forums - see gpforums and iphonewzealand.


Man this guy, obviously isn't the smartest since he used the same email he has been scamming people with as his facebook account, took me 10 seconds to find his name and the area he lives in after Freitasm posted those links. 

This will all catch up with him very soon I think.  


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Master Geek

  # 558909 17-Dec-2011 08:59
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skyplonk: For anyone that is interested, 

Yes, there are many of us keeping an eye on this thread, please keep posting updates...

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Ultimate Geek

  # 558933 17-Dec-2011 11:09
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I have got a few details about him over the last week or two..

Found out he was in court on Wednesday on theft related charges. 

He has the worst credit rating I have ever seen.  Big defaults with Voadafone and GE.

Interesting guy...


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  # 559461 19-Dec-2011 09:45
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As of today, still nothing. 

He was going to put the money back in my bank and on Monday last week said "It is sent, and will be in your bank tomorrow, I can not see any reason why it won't be".  A  week later no money back.  I am guessing it is not there as it was never sent back to me.   He was also never able to provide me proof that the money was sent... He said he PXT it to me but I never got it, and he used "all his credit trying". HAHAHA

On Thursday last week his "mate" apparently sent the phone from a NZ Post Shop.... The phone never arrived on Friday, Saturday or so far this morning.   They provided me a tracking number that is not even in the format that NZ Post or Courier Post use.  I have tired to use this number with all courier company's that I know of and surprise, surprise, it does not work.  They are unable to give me a copy of the receipt from NZ post.. More excuses. 

I ask him probing questions and they just do not get answered.   He has not answered his phone for over a week now.  All I get is text messages.

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  # 559474 19-Dec-2011 10:30
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I know it's a bitter pill to swallow, but you need to face up to reality - this scammer (like any other) will never willingly give you any money back. You will also not receive a phone as there was most likely never a real one for sale.

You've mentioned going to the police. Have you actaully laid a complaint?

This is a clear case of deception (punishment described here) and using a document. Hopefully you've also drawn police attention to the scams that have operated out of forums?

The stuff in the other forums is excellent fodder for proving intent and gaining a conviction against this person [/looseterm]

EDIT: Don't delete the text messages from your phone and thoroughly document any verbal interactions.

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  # 559497 19-Dec-2011 11:38
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With being through something like this before, 

I hope the O.P gets his money back....

I'm actually annoyed at the guy from just reading the posts...

Drive up to Whangarei starts to sound fun.. not that I'm implying anything..  

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  # 559675 19-Dec-2011 16:33
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Exactly what happened to me on TradeMe some years back.

The scam was reported on where i got in contact with another buyer who is a security guard. We managed to get the details of the scammer and got his address. The security guard drove to Mangakino and confronted the scammer and managed to get his $$$ a week later.

Decided to go with the rest of the group... $10 a week among 10 people.. Knew I shouldve gone to Mangakino too!

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  # 559989 20-Dec-2011 16:29
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This was what happened to me....

Trade Me conman jailed for a year

A persistent Trade Me conman was a "thoroughly dishonest and manipulative young man", the judge said when jailing him for a year.

Jormah Satchel Martin, 17, of New Plymouth, admitted ripping off at least 18 people of more than $10,000 by taking their money for automotive parts but never sending anything in return.

One of Martin's victims wrote a statements to the court saying that he was earning his money through an honest day's work but Martin was not.

"You find ways to scam people probably because you are lazy, dishonest and a liar and you need to be taught right from wrong."

Judge Allan Roberts said the victim's comments were "right on the money".

Martin's defence counsel, Susan Hurley, agreed the large number of offences, coupled with the fact he already had a record for similar offending, were all aggravating factors.

His probation report showed that he was intelligent but had a lack of understanding of the consequences, Ms Hurley said. She asked that any jail sentence be kept short because of his young age.

Judge Roberts said the offending stretched between June and September when Martin accessed a computer 18 times for dishonest purposes using a series of names.

He also breached community work twice during August and September.

Letters Martin wrote apologising and promising he would carry out a community work sentence came to nothing, the judge said.

"No sooner were you released than you were offending again. It was my error I bought into it. You have an appalling non-compliance."

Martin's justification was that his offending was not violent so it did not have the same impact on his victims.

He was assessed as having a high risk of reoffending.

Martin was ordered to repay $8382.80.

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