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  Reply # 1081605 5-Jul-2014 20:36
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There's no moral justification for differential pricing on copyright "media".  It shouldn't be treated any differently from other products and services.  Reducing barriers to free trade has been a consistent (bipartisan) objective of NZ governments since the 1980s.  (Near) monopolies which have prospered in NZ (Sky TV is an example) are beneficiaries of protectionism which benefits only themselves - not content creators or the consumer. There is no moral reason whatsoever why a consumer anywhere should be "locked in" by an agreement with a local provider - who does nothing at all to add value - except "clip the ticket".  This needs to stop.
If an agreement such as TPP - at the behest of US media corporations lobbying the US govt - places "media" in some special category so that they get "special treatment" not afforded to other suppliers of goods and services, then that would be a backward step - and anti -"free trade".  NZ should (and hopefully will) reject any pressure.
This should be integral to WTA policy - and overriding any local deals done as FTAs.  That as well as some gutsy international agreement to nail "profit shifting" would make the world a much better place.

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  Reply # 1081615 5-Jul-2014 21:01
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They sort of overstated their claim only Netflix, Hulu work on Globalmode. Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer need dsl or vpn...

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1081649 5-Jul-2014 22:44
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insane:
Rappelle: I have had global mode on for months, and I'm still unable to use this service. Netflix always detects I'm from New Zealand. Could this be related to using google's DNS over slingshot's?


Ahuh, directly related


As per the Slinghsot Global mode FAQ:
If you are still having issues, please set your modem DNS settings to automatic (do not use other Static IP address and static DNS settings) other than Slingshot DNS settings. Click here to visit the DNS Support Page.

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  Reply # 1081710 6-Jul-2014 07:57
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daunjan: They sort of overstated their claim only Netflix, Hulu work on Globalmode. Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer need dsl or vpn...


Not that I use it much, but iPlayer generally works fine for me (this is from before Slingshots enabling it for everyone). Including when I tried it just now. Never tried Amazon Prime. Don't understand what you mean by 'need dsl'. Do you mean it only works on a DSL connection and not Fibre? If so your statement is confusing since it's still Globalmode, just not Globalmode on fibre. In any case if it really is only working on Globalmode on DSL (which it does for me) but not Globalmode on fibre (Chorus decided to lay fibre almost all around me, just not in a small area where I am), a fair chance it's a bug, you might want to try contacting Slingshot about it.

BTW, as much as this is big news here, I'm not convinced it's going to make a big difference to NetFlix or anyone like that. While it seems that it's not hard for Netflix or whoever to work out what they're using to bypass and block it, so to with so many other. I mean many of the services, free or paid that are common, must surely serve a lot more people than Slingshot ever will even in their wildest dreams. Yet from what I've read, many of them seem to work fine for a long time. So doesn't seem likely it's going to happen here. One factor is probably that Netflix etc don't really care, they only care because the studios etc complain. (In fact, while the movies studios etc may care a bit, I'm not sure how much the US TV networks really care. Sure they want to sell their content to foreign networks or distribution channels, but a big junk of it is probably fixed fees. They're only hurt if the people they sell it to are hurt enough that they pay less which is a complicated equation.) The other is that I guess they figure it's a losing battle. They'd need something else which makes it more difficult for people to access than simple IP based geoblocking as others here suggested.

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  Reply # 1081726 6-Jul-2014 08:50
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daunjan: They sort of overstated their claim only Netflix, Hulu work on Globalmode. Amazon Prime and BBC iPlayer need dsl or vpn...


not true for my ss + global

i get hulu+, netflix, iplayer, crackle, vudu, amazon prime - all without a vpn or ext dns service - this is on pc

some devices are however less comprehensive eg. 2011 samsung tv - hulu+ throws up a not available message - i suspect its a hw lock even though i could install the app


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  Reply # 1081975 6-Jul-2014 18:50
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@sen8or, AFAIK the provisions in the copyright legislation that you reference only apply to people importing for commercial re-sale. They explicitly don't apply to people importing for their own use/consumption.

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  Reply # 1082145 7-Jul-2014 02:22
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If anyone else having a problem with this? I am having trouble connecting to the netflix website. All it keeps doing is "connecting".

The few times it has loaded it has streamed fine. I am also able to connect to help.netflix.com fine. Likewise when I try to access the site through a proxy it works fine. I am having this problem across IE, Chrome, and Firefox. Neither my tablet or phone is able to connect to netflix via wifi either.

This problem began today, it worked fine yesterday (July 5th). I have made sure that the DNS is set to automatic. I have rebooted the router.

Here is a Traceroute I ran from my computer to netflix.com...

C:\Users\Sarah>tracert www.netflix.com

Tracing route to www.netflix.com [67.138.104.173]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms slingshot.DSL [192.168.1.1]
2 50 ms 34 ms 37 ms v1.cpcak3-bng1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.0.90]
3 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms ae-5-10.cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.47]
4 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms ae-4-10.cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.46]
5 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms ad-cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.163]
6 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms xe-4-0-3-10.cpcak4-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.97
]
7 32 ms 32 ms 31 ms xe-4-0-2-10.cpcak4-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.96
]
8 32 ms 32 ms 31 ms ten-0-2-0.bdr01.akl05.akl.VOCUS.net.nz [175.45.1
02.17]
9 157 ms 157 ms 156 ms ten-0-1-0-2.cor01.akl05.akl.VOCUS.net.nz [114.31
.202.122]
10 156 ms 157 ms 157 ms ten-0-3-0-1.cor01.sjc01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199
.31]
11 156 ms 156 ms 155 ms ten-0-0-0.bdr02.sjc01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199.1
91]
12 166 ms 166 ms 165 ms integratelecom.com.any2ix.coresite.com [206.223.
143.95]
13 165 ms 165 ms 165 ms ge6-1.ar10.lsancarc.integra.net [209.63.114.66]

14 165 ms 164 ms 165 ms blog.netflix.com [67.138.104.1]
15 blog.netflix.com [67.138.104.1] reports: Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

This has been the ONLY website I cannot connect to.


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  Reply # 1082213 7-Jul-2014 09:54
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No problems here
Running
ATV, iphone & Samsung note
Slingshot connection

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  Reply # 1082218 7-Jul-2014 09:59
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Saranis: If anyone else having a problem with this? I am having trouble connecting to the netflix website. All it keeps doing is "connecting".

The few times it has loaded it has streamed fine. I am also able to connect to help.netflix.com fine. Likewise when I try to access the site through a proxy it works fine. I am having this problem across IE, Chrome, and Firefox. Neither my tablet or phone is able to connect to netflix via wifi either.

This problem began today, it worked fine yesterday (July 5th). I have made sure that the DNS is set to automatic. I have rebooted the router.

Here is a Traceroute I ran from my computer to netflix.com...

C:\Users\Sarah>tracert www.netflix.com

Tracing route to www.netflix.com [67.138.104.173]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms slingshot.DSL [192.168.1.1]
2 50 ms 34 ms 37 ms v1.cpcak3-bng1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.0.90]
3 31 ms 31 ms 31 ms ae-5-10.cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.47]
4 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms ae-4-10.cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.46]
5 32 ms 32 ms 32 ms ad-cpcak3-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.163]
6 31 ms 32 ms 31 ms xe-4-0-3-10.cpcak4-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.97
]
7 32 ms 32 ms 31 ms xe-4-0-2-10.cpcak4-r1.tranzpeer.net [101.98.3.96
]
8 32 ms 32 ms 31 ms ten-0-2-0.bdr01.akl05.akl.VOCUS.net.nz [175.45.1
02.17]
9 157 ms 157 ms 156 ms ten-0-1-0-2.cor01.akl05.akl.VOCUS.net.nz [114.31
.202.122]
10 156 ms 157 ms 157 ms ten-0-3-0-1.cor01.sjc01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199
.31]
11 156 ms 156 ms 155 ms ten-0-0-0.bdr02.sjc01.ca.VOCUS.net [114.31.199.1
91]
12 166 ms 166 ms 165 ms integratelecom.com.any2ix.coresite.com [206.223.
143.95]
13 165 ms 165 ms 165 ms ge6-1.ar10.lsancarc.integra.net [209.63.114.66]

14 165 ms 164 ms 165 ms blog.netflix.com [67.138.104.1]
15 blog.netflix.com [67.138.104.1] reports: Destination host unreachable.

Trace complete.

This has been the ONLY website I cannot connect to.



you could always ask Slingshot for help.

Oh wait, no you can't!

Solution:  use unblock-us, unotelly or one of the many other services that offer actual support for their products.  Well worth the measly $5/month

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  Reply # 1082287 7-Jul-2014 11:02
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Not that little old NZ is going to make a difference to the studios, but this just illustrates how futile region blocking is.
It never worked for DVDs, where there were 7 zones, Bluray only has 3, and it still doesn't really work (although it is a bit harder to get around with a multi-zone player, our zone discs are available ex UK for good prices and availability).

When they admit that the best way is global release dates, and global pricing, all this nonsense will stop. Sell whoever wants the rights the rights, make it cheaper for those rights (and then more will buy them) and stay away from exclusives. I reckon they'd make more, piracy would dwindle. The only ones that would get hurt are the geo-unblockers (unfortunately, as they do a great job!).

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  Reply # 1082295 7-Jul-2014 11:15
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Saranis: If anyone else having a problem with this? I am having trouble connecting to the netflix website. All it keeps doing is "connecting".

The few times it has loaded it has streamed fine. I am also able to connect to help.netflix.com fine. Likewise when I try to access the site through a proxy it works fine. I am having this problem across IE, Chrome, and Firefox. Neither my tablet or phone is able to connect to netflix via wifi either.

This problem began today, it worked fine yesterday (July 5th). I have made sure that the DNS is set to automatic. I have rebooted the router.

Here is a Traceroute I ran from my computer to netflix.com...

C:\Users\Sarah>tracert www.netflix.com

Tracing route to www.netflix.com [67.138.104.173]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms slingshot.DSL [192.168.1.1]
... etc

Trace complete.

This has been the ONLY website I cannot connect to.



you could always ask Slingshot for help.

Oh wait, no you can't!

Solution:  use unblock-us, unotelly or one of the many other services that offer actual support for their products.  Well worth the measly $5/month


In fact with the 35% geekzone discount unotelly works out about $3 per month if you purchase 12 months.
Unotelly works fine and has proven to be pretty helpful via geekzone - and as noted above - slingshot... not so much.




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  Reply # 1083774 7-Jul-2014 22:56
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no issues here......


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  Reply # 1083850 8-Jul-2014 08:34
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Hmm, BBC iPlayer has now stopped working for us - comes up with the old "Only available in the UK" message, so either something has changed in my config (not that I am aware of!) or the BBC have taken steps to re-instate the Geoblocking somehow? How are you guys faring?

Netflix still seems Ok for now, but I doubt it will be long before my account will stop working one way or another...

frown




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  Reply # 1083922 8-Jul-2014 09:41
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BBC iplayer still working for me! Try turning global mode on and off and restart your router I dont know how/why this works but it normally fixes things up for me. Failing that you could flush your DNS via CMD

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  Reply # 1084072 8-Jul-2014 13:02
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Skot323: BBC iplayer still working for me! Try turning global mode on and off and restart your router I dont know how/why this works but it normally fixes things up for me. Failing that you could flush your DNS via CMD


Will give this a crack tonight.

Cheers




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