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  Reply # 103383 7-Jan-2008 17:45
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Just read a reply posted on the Slingshot forums about this.

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as said, its not as neccessary due to no POTS voice being on the line.

who pays? well if your house wiring has issues out of our control - then you would have to.

we do however have Man in a Van which can resolve most techincal issues if need be Very Happy
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  Reply # 103680 8-Jan-2008 21:32
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Has anyone worked out if they could actually save money with the initial naked DSL offering?

Telecom phone line $40
My current DSL connection $70
Total before calls $110

Slingshot naked dsl $80
A 50gb data block $40
Total before calls $120


Yes you could save money if you didn't use much bandwidth, but for medium to heavy users there are not significant savings yet. Also granted you could save a little on tolls but at the end of the day you are basically paying the same amount for a convenience of having VoIP.

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  Reply # 103683 8-Jan-2008 21:39
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Of course if you are on one of slingshots older plans (you know, the ones with larger allowances) and use a lot of data... you could spend MORE!
From another thread:
Slingshot 25gb + 100 gb + Telecom = ~$176
$79.95 (6GB) + 100GB (2x$40) + 20GB (Added to get as close to 125 as possible 2x$20) = $179.95
$79.95 (6GB) + 100GB (2x$40) + 30GB (1x$25) = $184.95
Xnet Fusion + 125 gb = ~$195

For some its going to mean significant saving, for others minimal saving (might be more worth while having landline there if just for the power-issue/cost of equipment), for others such as above - they get a better deal keeping their landline (though those plans may or may not be offered anymore). It really depends on your provider that you go with, as some providers are much more expensive than others when it comes to naked DSL.




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  Reply # 103684 8-Jan-2008 21:40
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kirjava: ...for medium to heavy users there are not significant savings yet. Also granted you could save a little on tolls but at the end of the day you are basically paying the same amount for a convenience of having VoIP.

Yes, I think it's correct to say that.

As somebody else posted here:

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=65&TopicId=18370

It will work out more expensive for Heavy Downloaders to switch to Naked DSL.



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This is meant for my mum, so 6GB will be plenty :D

I've also just realised she's in Telstra's cable area so I will have to look at that - I think you can get a pretty good deal with them.

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  Reply # 103706 8-Jan-2008 23:02
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You can also get reduced Telecom line rates in Wellington or Christchurch - its worth calculating the costs of all the options (I don't know whether this will affect Naked DSL options).




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  Reply # 104399 12-Jan-2008 15:30
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I know we are talking about Slingshot naked DSL here but I would like to point out that I have gone onto naked DSL with Xnet fusion as I will be saving about $20 - $25 a month.

Before

POTS phone = $45.00
Xnet + 30GB = $79.95

Total before calls $124.95

Now

Xnet fusion +30GB $99.95

Total $99.95 before calls

Of course too with Xnet you only pay for what data you use not stuck to paying X amount of dollars for a certain data cap that you may not use all of. So there is definate savings to be made.

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Yep, no one is denying that there is saving to be made. The thing to remember, that the level of savings (if any) depend on your situation - so before you commit yourself to it, check your options :)




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kfella2000: I know we are talking about Slingshot naked DSL here but I would like to point out that I have gone onto naked DSL with Xnet fusion as I will be saving about $20 - $25 a month.

Before

POTS phone = $45.00
Xnet + 30GB = $79.95

Total before calls $124.95

Now

Xnet fusion +30GB $99.95

Total $99.95 before calls

Of course too with Xnet you only pay for what data you use not stuck to paying X amount of dollars for a certain data cap that you may not use all of. So there is definate savings to be made.


OR

Given we are talking about heavy downloading

Slingshot nDSL (6GB) +  30G $104.95  - Xnet would be $106.81

Slingshot nDSL (6GB) + 50G $119.95 - Xnet would be $127.25

so...

Xnet more expensive for heavy downloading

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  Reply # 104764 14-Jan-2008 15:39
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I heard that Slingshot is increasing the 6GB cap to 10GB soon

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  Reply # 104852 14-Jan-2008 21:49
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kfella2000: I know we are talking about Slingshot naked DSL here but I would like to point out that I have gone onto naked DSL with Xnet fusion as I will be saving about $20 - $25 a month.

Before

POTS phone = $45.00
Xnet + 30GB = $79.95

Total before calls $124.95

Now

Xnet fusion +30GB $99.95

Total $99.95 before calls

Of course too with Xnet you only pay for what data you use not stuck to paying X amount of dollars for a certain data cap that you may not use all of. So there is definate savings to be made.


OR

Given we are talking about heavy downloading

Slingshot nDSL (6GB) + 30G $104.95 - Xnet would be $106.81

Slingshot nDSL (6GB) + 50G $119.95 - Xnet would be $127.25

so...

Xnet more expensive for heavy downloading


I should have quoted Kirjava's question as to whether a person could save money with naked dsl as that was what my post was about, not trying to differentiate the price difference between Slingshot and Xnet. I was just pointing out in my case yes you can save money even though I am with Xnet fusion and likewise if you are with Slingshot with their naked dsl offering you will save money with them too.

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kfella2000:
I should have quoted Kirjava's question as to whether a person could save money with naked dsl as that was what my post was about, not trying to differentiate the price difference between Slingshot and Xnet. I was just pointing out in my case yes you can save money even though I am with Xnet fusion and likewise if you are with Slingshot with their naked dsl offering you will save money with them too.


Oh, sorry I got distracted by my current fanaticisms.  Over Xmas the slingshot forum wonderful admins where away,
so the question of the line maintenance charge was in issue/vogue. Which turned out to be your problem from the gate,
there is no $3 monthly maintenance fee, somethings about real cost's and dodgy home wireing, making $3 not enough.

*wonders if I should install my own cabnet at my gate?*

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  Reply # 108778 5-Feb-2008 20:34
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The issue I have with there being no wiring maintenance is that you have no access to the telecom demarc with them using IDC joiners and tri-wing screws rather then a user/telco segregated one like they do in the USA.

A few years back at the last place, I couldnt get an answer out of telecom once when I wanted to run a new cable to the demarc and wasnt able to open it and connect to it. In the end I just ghettoed it with a choclate block joiner between the incoming thick twisted cable and the cat 5 because I couldnt locate a IDC joiner like telecom used. If ISPs are going to not provide coverage for wiring then there really needs to be a decent demarc that gives a seperatable disconnect that you can test from, like the US telcos have on the outside of peoples houses.




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