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Topic # 190995 19-Jan-2016 13:03
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Currently on Vodafone and shopping around for a good fibre connection with mobile package.  Looking at Slingshot but had a comment from past customer speeds were slow.  Leaning toward Spark.  Any experience?

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  Reply # 1474557 19-Jan-2016 13:03
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

- you have reset your modem and router
- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing - you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap
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Make sure you provide information for other users to help you. If you have not already done it, please EDIT your post and add this now:

- Your ISP and plan
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- If your connection is to a ULL or wholesale service
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Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

I recommend you read these two blog posts:

- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical)
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  Reply # 1474608 19-Jan-2016 13:41
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Currently looking too, waiting for slingshot to get back to me actually. What area are you in Trickz?

 

Also if anyone is on Enable fiber, can you post speeds to Auckland, Sydney & Melbourne?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




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  Reply # 1474638 19-Jan-2016 13:56
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Any particular reason you want a package with mobile? It's often cheaper to buy them from separate providers, easier to see how much they cost, more freedom to switch if things go wrong, and personally I'd rather buy from a specialist than a business that trys to sell everything.

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  Reply # 1475305 20-Jan-2016 12:31
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NonprayingMantis: Any particular reason you want a package with mobile? It's often cheaper to buy them from separate providers, easier to see how much they cost, more freedom to switch if things go wrong, and personally I'd rather buy from a specialist than a business that trys to sell everything.

 

 

 

Not really,

 

I am on Slingshot UFB+Mobile and it's cheaper than the cheapest plan I can find from Skinny.

 

 

 

basically I pay 16NZD for 1GB and 250mins per month.






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  Reply # 1475324 20-Jan-2016 12:58
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zyo:

 

NonprayingMantis: Any particular reason you want a package with mobile? It's often cheaper to buy them from separate providers, easier to see how much they cost, more freedom to switch if things go wrong, and personally I'd rather buy from a specialist than a business that trys to sell everything.

 

 

 

Not really,

 

I am on Slingshot UFB+Mobile and it's cheaper than the cheapest plan I can find from Skinny.

 

 

 

basically I pay 16NZD for 1GB and 250mins per month.

 

 

 

 

how much is the broadband though?  that is the 'catch' with these kinds of bundles.  they make it seem great value on one product (in this case making the mobile great value), but actually hide the cost in the other one. (the broadband is well above the price you would pay with other providers)

 

 

 

for example, looking on the slingshot site I can see that UFB with mobile costs $104.95, and you must pay the extra $6 for the extra minutes, s you are paying around $111.  Is that right?

 

Slingshot:

 

so for ~$111/m you get:

 

100/20 unlimited UFB

 

1GB and 250 mins mobile

 

Homeline (do you actually want a homeline - many people don't bother now that mobile minutes are sooo cheap)?

 

 

 

Other Providers:

 

If you shopped around you can get:

 

100/20 unlimited UFB for $79/m

 

1GB and 300 mins mobile for $26/m

 

That's $105 - actually around $5 cheaper than the slingshot plans, with the added benefits of not having a contract for either of those services, whereas the slingshot deal requires a 12 or 24 month contract.

 

The only downside is no homeline - but you probably don't need one anyway with 300 minutes on your mobile.

 

 


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  Reply # 1475333 20-Jan-2016 13:09
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zyo:

 

NonprayingMantis: Any particular reason you want a package with mobile? It's often cheaper to buy them from separate providers, easier to see how much they cost, more freedom to switch if things go wrong, and personally I'd rather buy from a specialist than a business that trys to sell everything.

 

 

 

Not really,

 

I am on Slingshot UFB+Mobile and it's cheaper than the cheapest plan I can find from Skinny.

 

 

 

basically I pay 16NZD for 1GB and 250mins per month.

 

 

 

 

I'm looking to jump from Skinny to Slingshot UFB+Mobile to take advantage of the 1GB/250mins p/mth for 16NZD!

 

How is the mobile service? any issues?!

 

 

 

Cheers!


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  Reply # 1475351 20-Jan-2016 13:24
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NonprayingMantis:

 

Other Providers:

 

If you shopped around you can get:

 

100/20 unlimited UFB for $79/m

 

1GB and 300 mins mobile for $26/m

 

That's $105 - actually around $5 cheaper than the slingshot plans, with the added benefits of not having a contract for either of those services, whereas the slingshot deal requires a 12 or 24 month contract.

 

The only downside is no homeline - but you probably don't need one anyway with 300 minutes on your mobile.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's a great point! and looking around I see that http://unlimitedinternet.co.nz/broadband-plans#UFB are offering 100/20 for $75 p/mth!


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  Reply # 1475352 20-Jan-2016 13:27
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NonprayingMantis:

 

zyo:

 

NonprayingMantis: Any particular reason you want a package with mobile? It's often cheaper to buy them from separate providers, easier to see how much they cost, more freedom to switch if things go wrong, and personally I'd rather buy from a specialist than a business that trys to sell everything.

 

 

 

Not really,

 

I am on Slingshot UFB+Mobile and it's cheaper than the cheapest plan I can find from Skinny.

 

 

 

basically I pay 16NZD for 1GB and 250mins per month.

 

 

 

 

how much is the broadband though?  that is the 'catch' with these kinds of bundles.  they make it seem great value on one product (in this case making the mobile great value), but actually hide the cost in the other one. (the broadband is well above the price you would pay with other providers)

 

 

 

for example, looking on the slingshot site I can see that UFB with mobile costs $104.95, and you must pay the extra $6 for the extra minutes, s you are paying around $111.  Is that right?

 

so for ~$111/m you get:

 

100/20 unlimited UFB

 

1GB and 250 mins mobile

 

Homeline (do you actually want a homeline - many people don't bother now that mobile minutes are sooo cheap)?

 

 

 

If you shopped around you can get:

 

100/20 unlimited UFB for $79/m

 

1GB and 300 mins mobile for $26/m

 

That's $105 - actually around $5 cheaper than the slingshot plans, with the added benefits of not having a contract for either of those services, whereas the slingshot deal requires a 12 or 24 month contract.

 

The only downside is no homeline - but you probably don't need one anyway with 300 minutes on your mobile.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No point comparing a naked line vs a clothed one.

 

With Slingshot UFB they provided us with a Voip line which carries 500 internaional mins each month which my wife uses, that's an exceptionally good deal for 5 dollars as far as I am concerned :).

 

 

 

 






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  Reply # 1475370 20-Jan-2016 13:39
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zyo:

 

NonprayingMantis:

 

zyo:

 

NonprayingMantis: Any particular reason you want a package with mobile? It's often cheaper to buy them from separate providers, easier to see how much they cost, more freedom to switch if things go wrong, and personally I'd rather buy from a specialist than a business that trys to sell everything.

 

 

 

Not really,

 

I am on Slingshot UFB+Mobile and it's cheaper than the cheapest plan I can find from Skinny.

 

 

 

basically I pay 16NZD for 1GB and 250mins per month.

 

 

 

 

how much is the broadband though?  that is the 'catch' with these kinds of bundles.  they make it seem great value on one product (in this case making the mobile great value), but actually hide the cost in the other one. (the broadband is well above the price you would pay with other providers)

 

 

 

for example, looking on the slingshot site I can see that UFB with mobile costs $104.95, and you must pay the extra $6 for the extra minutes, s you are paying around $111.  Is that right?

 

so for ~$111/m you get:

 

100/20 unlimited UFB

 

1GB and 250 mins mobile

 

Homeline (do you actually want a homeline - many people don't bother now that mobile minutes are sooo cheap)?

 

 

 

If you shopped around you can get:

 

100/20 unlimited UFB for $79/m

 

1GB and 300 mins mobile for $26/m

 

That's $105 - actually around $5 cheaper than the slingshot plans, with the added benefits of not having a contract for either of those services, whereas the slingshot deal requires a 12 or 24 month contract.

 

The only downside is no homeline - but you probably don't need one anyway with 300 minutes on your mobile.

 

 

 

 

 

 

No point comparing a naked line vs a clothed one.

 

With Slingshot UFB they provided us with a Voip line which carries 500 internaional mins each month which my wife uses, that's an exceptionally good deal for 5 dollars as far as I am concerned :).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

true,  which is why I specifically called it out homeline.  Most people nowdays have no need for a homeline, use their mobile and skype/facetime/google hangouts etc - so the value of a homeline to them is $0 (to them).

 

If you value it, then obviously that changes the deal a bit.


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  Reply # 1475371 20-Jan-2016 13:40
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pulsta:

 

NonprayingMantis:

 

Other Providers:

 

If you shopped around you can get:

 

100/20 unlimited UFB for $79/m

 

1GB and 300 mins mobile for $26/m

 

That's $105 - actually around $5 cheaper than the slingshot plans, with the added benefits of not having a contract for either of those services, whereas the slingshot deal requires a 12 or 24 month contract.

 

The only downside is no homeline - but you probably don't need one anyway with 300 minutes on your mobile.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's a great point! and looking around I see that http://unlimitedinternet.co.nz/broadband-plans#UFB are offering 100/20 for $75 p/mth!

 

 

but price, of course, isn't the only thing to consider.  You also want a provider with some credibility (and Unlimited Internet has none)


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  Reply # 1475405 20-Jan-2016 14:11
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NonprayingMantis: (snip) Most people nowdays have no need for a homeline, use their mobile and skype/facetime/google hangouts etc - so the value of a homeline to them is $0 (to them).

 

If you value it, then obviously that changes the deal a bit.

 

 

I hear this bandied about so much here on GZ, but I'm yet to see any actual evidence that "most" people indeed don't need (or want) a landline. I feel this is often more a statement of some kind of selection bias, in that it reflects one's own usage/preferences and others who one knows (typically similar), rather than anything concrete.

 

Is there evidence that a majority of New Zealanders are on mobile phone plans that would enable them to ditch their landline? How many older people, for example, don't have mobiles, or aren't on suitable plans?

 

Or even that doing so would suit a majority of NZers? For example, mobile phones typically belong to individuals, not the collective group living in a house - so what about family members (such as children) that don't have their own phone?

 

And that's not even getting on to preferences, eg many not feeling comfortable with using mobile technology (complexity, "radiation"...) and many want/need the security of a copper line (to reduce the chance of outages).


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  Reply # 1475434 20-Jan-2016 14:39
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NonprayingMantis: (snip) Most people nowdays have no need for a homeline, use their mobile and skype/facetime/google hangouts etc - so the value of a homeline to them is $0 (to them).

 

If you value it, then obviously that changes the deal a bit.

 

 

I hear this bandied about so much here on GZ, but I'm yet to see any actual evidence that "most" people indeed don't need (or want) a landline. I feel this is often more a statement of some kind of selection bias, in that it reflects one's own usage/preferences and others who one knows (typically similar), rather than anything concrete.

 

Is there evidence that a majority of New Zealanders are on mobile phone plans that would enable them to ditch their landline? How many older people, for example, don't have mobiles, or aren't on suitable plans?

 

Or even that doing so would suit a majority of NZers? For example, mobile phones typically belong to individuals, not the collective group living in a house - so what about family members (such as children) that don't have their own phone?

 

And that's not even getting on to preferences, eg many not feeling comfortable with using mobile technology (complexity, "radiation"...) and many want/need the security of a copper line (to reduce the chance of outages).

 

 

 

 

true, it's probably not 'most' yet.  But it's a hugely growing segment. 

 

 

 

In other countries, where mobile calling has been cheap for some time (instead of only just this year) there is massive substitution of landline for mobiles. (looking at that chart,  no-landline houses probably overtook landline houses in the USA around the end of 2015

 

e.g. 

 

 

 

NZ is a bit different - I think around 65-75% of households still have a landline.  

 

However, that doesn't mean they actually want one. A lot of those households have just never bothered considering giving them up, believe (wrongly) that landline calling is cheaper than mobile, or have a provider that forces you to take a landline whether you want one or not.

 

 

 

if you ask the people who have a landline why they have one, the most common answers are along the lines of:

 

"we've just always had one and I never bothered shopping around"

 

"it came for free with the broadband"

 

"it's cheaper than using my mobile" (wrong in most cases)

 

 


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  Reply # 1475827 21-Jan-2016 06:58
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Making assertions that it is cheap to use mobile doesn't cover the real world, especially for older people, as there are consequences for people who now have to pay to call you.

 

But, agree, it is only a matter of time before mobile takes over.


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  Reply # 1475841 21-Jan-2016 07:43
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linw:

Making assertions that it is cheap to use mobile doesn't cover the real world, especially for older people, as there are consequences for people who now have to pay to call you.


But, agree, it is only a matter of time before mobile takes over.



Actually mobile is, right now, cheaper than landline and this is especially so for old people who don't have broadband

A landline costs around$50 with free local calling. National and mobile calls are on top of that, so it only takes a few minutes of toll calls to get you up to $60+
You can get unlimited minutes on a mobile to any landline or nz mobile, and wth some providers even Australia e.g. Skinny charges $46 for this.

So it's actually cheaper to have a mobile sitting at home than it is to leave a landline connected
(Not to mention other great features of mobile, like caller id, call waiting, contacts list etc, which either don't exist with landline, or require extra fees.

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  Reply # 1476878 22-Jan-2016 15:06
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Bump.

 

 

 

Anyone in Christchurch that can do a traceroute / speedtest to Auckland, Sydney & Melbourne please?   :)





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