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Athlonite

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#1650042 13-Oct-2016 01:23

MadEngineer: Does that form "most" of your connections? Would show the popularity of vdsl if so ...

Not when I had VDSL it wasn't an IPv6 address

kiwibob1

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#1650061 13-Oct-2016 07:00

tardtasticx:

OP if you need IPv6 so badly why not move to an ISP that you know supports it? Personally it sounds like you're looking for some sort of business grade solution? That'd be where you need to head for the time being. Enabling IPv6 is not just flicking a switch to turn it on network wide, I can assure you of that.

You are exactly right about IPv6 not being a simple switch on unless you are building a new network from scratch. To deploy IPv6 on a large and complex network could take months to roll out to avoid costly disruption. This of course is why it needs to be done before customer demand makes it essential to have it.

I certainly will be only considering ISP's that support IPv6 as I have no wish to be caught in a contract with an ISP that is going to be caught short on the day IPv6 becomes a must have. I would highly recommend moving to an IPv6 enabled ISP to anyone who is out of contract. I had imagined that Orcon was one such but was told otherwise.

I'm not clear that there is any such thing as a business grade internet, certainly there is variation in SLAs and also in over-subscription and prioritisation models. These make some services faster, more responsive and possibly more expensive than others. I'd argue that gamers are fussier than businesses

kiwibob1

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#1650065 13-Oct-2016 07:11

Wayward:

What is the issue if the ISP doesn't support IPv6? wouldn't the router manage the packet through anyway or is an IPv6 packet from a LAN passed out of the router as IPv6 - sorry I don't understand.

If the ISP doesn't support IPv6 then your router cannot send any packets to IPv6 addresses.

e.g.

your router (111.222.333.444) => 88.150.249.130 should work fine

your router (111.222.333.444) => 2404:6800:4006:806::200e cannot work

kiwibob1

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#1650066 13-Oct-2016 07:14

Sounddude:

We support IPV6 currently on UCLL and EUBA/VDSL.

So if I get VDSL from Orcon I will get IPv6 or does it depend on some other factors?

Sounddude

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#1650799 14-Oct-2016 07:31

kiwibob1:

So if I get VDSL from Orcon I will get IPv6 or does it depend on some other factors?

Yes all VDSL get IPV6.

Athlonite

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#1650843 14-Oct-2016 09:25

Sounddude:

kiwibob1:

So if I get VDSL from Orcon I will get IPv6 or does it depend on some other factors?

Yes all VDSL get IPV6.

really since when I have only in the last two weeks gone UFB from VDSL and I certainly didn't have an IPv6 address

Nebbie

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#1650986 14-Oct-2016 12:07

kiwibob1:

I just had an interesting chat with one of the sales people at Orcon.

The lady I spoke to had no idea what IPv6 was (or indeed IPv4) which is more than a little disappointing from a major ISP in 2016. Anyway she went off to find out and came back and told me that Orcon don't offer IPv6 because theirs is a "residential service".

Pity.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could call any sales team and talk technical to them, IPv6 while its been around for sometime now is still "kinda" in its early stages of adoption. Most people wanting it are people like us "geeks" people who have quite a high level of technical knowledge to us IPv6 is like breathing, and we forget when we learnt it your level of knowledge will always be well above most call centre technical team at least for now.For the most part the average person will have no idea what it is and will have no idea when they are using IPv6 so sales teams (residential) most likely wont know what it is.... Every now and then someone may have had some exposure to IPv6 so they might know what it is.

Sales teams are more centred around price of product and promotions, and Internet connection is just a place were magic happens.... and it costs $X..
It sounds like the sales person then asked someone else about IPv6 and usually business customers are the people requesting IPv6 one in 1000's of residential customers may ask about IPv6 the geeks.

When it comes to business due to the level of complexity required for their needs the sales teams are often technical people who can talk the talk to understand the needs.

I'm waiting for IPv6 on my UFB connection too, I really need to wrap my head around it sooner than later.

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