sorceror:

a 30 second google search will show you various techniques a telco can use to identify tethering

PhantomNVD:

sorceror:

 

a 30 second google search will show you various techniques a telco can use to identify tethering

 

Yep, here the top hit:

http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/47819/how-can-phone-companies-detect-tethering-incl-wifi-hotspot

Can't imagine TTL would be easy to spoof... would an encrypted VPN tunnel still show the same?

if you VPN'd from the device and the hotspotted that VPN, no. if you ran a VPN on a device off a hotspot, TTL issue would still be valid.

think of it this way, the trick to using TTLs is, you make it so when the packet lands on the device it cant be forwarded on by a router that respects that..

Very easy on a decent router, but That's an edgecase that i expect 2d would eventually cotton onto and give them the big red mark..

 I think that's part of the "machine to machine" exclusion - technically a VPN would be a violation of the terms, too.

PhantomNVD:

sorceror:

 

a 30 second google search will show you various techniques a telco can use to identify tethering

 

Yep, here the top hit:

http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/47819/how-can-phone-companies-detect-tethering-incl-wifi-hotspot

Can't imagine TTL would be easy to spoof... would an encrypted VPN tunnel still show the same?

if you have a rooted android it's trivial to add 1 to the outgoing TTL, there's a buttload of apps on the store that do it.

having said that though, nobody's sure whether 2d will use the TTL method in the first place

SaltyNZ:

 

surfisup1000: Their were rumours of a groundbreaking plan from 2d a few weeks back. I guess this is it.

 

No. 

Well then, maybe it's the new Data Clock (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=85&topicid=211622)?

IcI:

SaltyNZ:

surfisup1000: Their were rumours of a groundbreaking plan from 2d a few weeks back. I guess this is it.

No. 

 

Well then, maybe it's the new Data Clock (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=85&topicid=211622)?

Since its public on sparks site now,

https://store.spark.co.nz/forms/s/spark-freedom-plan

i expect @freitasm will have a press release at some point today..

So what's the tethering / mobile hotspot data allowance? As people will still want to be able to do this.

coffeebaron:

So what's the tethering / mobile hotspot data allowance? As people will still want to be able to do this.

I imagine the user case for the average high volume mobile data consumer will not be purely on a phone?

It does make a good case for buying a "Superscreen" https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/brentmorgan/superscreen/faqs