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  #1756549 4-Apr-2017 19:34
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sorceror:

a 30 second google search will show you various techniques a telco can use to identify tethering



Yep, here the top hit:

http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/47819/how-can-phone-companies-detect-tethering-incl-wifi-hotspot

Can't imagine TTL would be easy to spoof... would an encrypted VPN tunnel still show the same?

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  #1756656 4-Apr-2017 23:15
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PhantomNVD:
sorceror:

 

a 30 second google search will show you various techniques a telco can use to identify tethering

 



Yep, here the top hit:

http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/47819/how-can-phone-companies-detect-tethering-incl-wifi-hotspot

Can't imagine TTL would be easy to spoof... would an encrypted VPN tunnel still show the same?

 

if you VPN'd from the device and the hotspotted that VPN, no. if you ran a VPN on a device off a hotspot, TTL issue would still be valid.

 

 

 

think of it this way, the trick to using TTLs is, you make it so when the packet lands on the device it cant be forwarded on by a router that respects that..

 

 

 

Very easy on a decent router, but That's an edgecase that i expect 2d would eventually cotton onto and give them the big red mark..





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  #1756678 5-Apr-2017 00:38
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 I think that's part of the "machine to machine" exclusion - technically a VPN would be a violation of the terms, too.




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  #1756869 5-Apr-2017 10:38
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PhantomNVD:
sorceror:

 

a 30 second google search will show you various techniques a telco can use to identify tethering

 



Yep, here the top hit:

http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/47819/how-can-phone-companies-detect-tethering-incl-wifi-hotspot

Can't imagine TTL would be easy to spoof... would an encrypted VPN tunnel still show the same?

 

if you have a rooted android it's trivial to add 1 to the outgoing TTL, there's a buttload of apps on the store that do it.

 

having said that though, nobody's sure whether 2d will use the TTL method in the first place


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surfisup1000: Their were rumours of a groundbreaking plan from 2d a few weeks back. I guess this is it.

 

No. 

 

 

 

Well then, maybe it's the new Data Clock (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=85&topicid=211622)?





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  #1757064 5-Apr-2017 14:37
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IcI:

SaltyNZ:


surfisup1000: Their were rumours of a groundbreaking plan from 2d a few weeks back. I guess this is it.


No. 


 


Well then, maybe it's the new Data Clock (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=85&topicid=211622)?



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  #1757271 5-Apr-2017 20:38
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That's very innovative thinking!

Awesome job 2D!



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  #1757526 6-Apr-2017 13:48
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Since its public on sparks site now,

 

https://store.spark.co.nz/forms/s/spark-freedom-plan

 

 

 

i expect @freitasm will have a press release at some point today..





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  #1757563 6-Apr-2017 14:07
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So what's the tethering / mobile hotspot data allowance? As people will still want to be able to do this.





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  #1757683 6-Apr-2017 16:23
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coffeebaron:

So what's the tethering / mobile hotspot data allowance? As people will still want to be able to do this.



I agree. They should have an allowance for tethering rather than ban it all together.
A lot of people use tethering daily and not being able to use it will absolutely put off a fair few high data users.

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I imagine the user case for the average high volume mobile data consumer will not be purely on a phone?

 

 

 

It does make a good case for buying a "Superscreen" https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/brentmorgan/superscreen/faqs

 

 

 

 


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  #1757700 6-Apr-2017 16:49
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Skinny has responded

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=137&topicid=211670

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  #1757704 6-Apr-2017 16:55
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So should tethering be required at some stage would one need to buy a tethering package?

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