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  Reply # 1942105 18-Jan-2018 17:44
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@IPv6pipe- this is $30 cheaper for the same service (assume they don't have IPv6 however) interested to see how others respond to this. not sure IPv6 is worth a $30 premium 



IPv6 is in progress.


Slingshot has IPV6 on xDSL, just working of UFB.



Ipv6 on dsl? How do I set this up?

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  Reply # 1942115 18-Jan-2018 18:23
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Jeez, if I weren't so fond of keeping my static IP, I'd be on board to change over to Slingshot, because my pocket wouldn't say no to saving $30 a month. It'll be interesting to see if Bigpipe, et al can mount a response in a timely fashion, especially without impacting quality of service.


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  Reply # 1942120 18-Jan-2018 18:40
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toejam316:

 

Jeez, if I weren't so fond of keeping my static IP, I'd be on board to change over to Slingshot, because my pocket wouldn't say no to saving $30 a month. It'll be interesting to see if Bigpipe, et al can mount a response in a timely fashion, especially without impacting quality of service.

 

 

QOS is the one i'm interested to see the results in.. 

 

i expect this plan to draw a fair few leachers.





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  Reply # 1942142 18-Jan-2018 20:04
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That's interesting. A ~23% decrease in price for gigabit ($130->$100) along with a ~16% increase ($60->$70) for their cheapest (capped 30Mb/s) fibre plan.

 

I've been considering leaving Bigpipe (to save some money - almost 30% - and for NZ peering), and Orcon is still cheaper over 12 months. Their 3 month free offer works out $90/mth for the first year. And I'm not sure whether there's any differences network-wise between the brands.

 

 





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  Reply # 1942157 18-Jan-2018 20:34
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Detruire:

 

That's interesting. A ~23% decrease in price for gigabit ($130->$100) along with a ~16% increase ($60->$70) for their cheapest (capped 30Mb/s) fibre plan.

 

I've been considering leaving Bigpipe (to save some money - almost 30% - and for NZ peering), and Orcon is still cheaper over 12 months. Their 3 month free offer works out $90/mth for the first year. And I'm not sure whether there's any differences network-wise between the brands.

 

 

 

 

Bring the bottom line up to pay for the reduction, maths out pretty well really.

 

 

 

Vocus compared to GGI is a big difference in terms of peering choices. 





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  Reply # 1942172 18-Jan-2018 21:08
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Anyone know what modem they provide with that service?

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  Reply # 1942173 18-Jan-2018 21:09
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epr: Anyone know what modem they provide with that service?


Sorry router.



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  Reply # 1942174 18-Jan-2018 21:10
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Vocus compared to GGI is a big difference in terms of peering choices. 

 

 

How important is peering for the quality of broadband do you think? It reduces latency I imagine? Also what is GGI?


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  Reply # 1942182 18-Jan-2018 21:29
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howdystranger:

 

Also what is GGI?

 

 

Global Gateway Internet, Spark's domestic/international transit product.


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  Reply # 1942183 18-Jan-2018 21:41
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djtOtago:

 

If you live in Dunedin you can get their "Gigantic" plan for their 100Mbps plans price.

 

That's a gig plan for $85.00 ish per month.

 

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edit: added screen shot

 

 

 

 

Good to see them on par with Orcon's gigatown offering iirc, we pay similar($90) with Spark with calling pack and call minder included. 


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  Reply # 1943223 19-Jan-2018 05:53
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Starscream122:

 

gehenna:

 

Starscream122:

 

will the Hawaiki cable bring better Pings to USA?

 

 

I'm not sure if moving USA closer to NZ is in scope. 

 

 

 

 

I thought the new cable takes a shorter route. 

 

My bad. 

 

It does.

 

http://hawaikicable.co.nz/

 

 


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  Reply # 1943290 19-Jan-2018 09:53
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howdystranger:

 

How important is peering for the quality of broadband do you think? It reduces latency I imagine? Also what is GGI?

 

 

Vocus has an open peering policy. Basically means other ISP's and content providers will interconnect with Vocus over peering exchanges or direct connections. This offers a better experience for the customers as they are low latency and congestion free.

 

Spark/Vodafone expect other ISP's to pay to connect to their networks, so ISP's run these quite hot to keep cost down.

 

 


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  Reply # 1943325 19-Jan-2018 10:12
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howdystranger:

 

 

Vocus compared to GGI is a big difference in terms of peering choices. 

 

 

How important is peering for the quality of broadband do you think? It reduces latency I imagine? Also what is GGI?

 

 

Peering is an awkward one in AU it's a major thing.. For some reason their providers simply don't give a damn?

 

 

 

in NZ it Used to be a big thing, EG Vodafone was totally trash for tcp bandwidth due to a few peering choices upstream but Snap used GGI and had a massive difference.

 

peering can also play in other ways too, eg. https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=40&topicid=228620

 

 

 

I have a love for GGI over Vocus (i have both at home) but there are cases where Vocus may do better or rerouting the return path for X or Y works far better.

 

 

 

Also comes down to other points like, What cable route is preferred when we hit the US shore?

 

Overall, i have in the past hammered connections on slingshots network, and have been impressed with results. The guys over there are pretty smart and on their toes :)

 

 





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  Reply # 1943358 19-Jan-2018 10:59
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Vocus compared to GGI is a big difference in terms of peering choices. 



Yeah GGI is several leagues below Vocus.

I know of a few providers, ourselves included, that hand traffic over to Spark in Sydney rather than locally because they refuse to allow Spark to double dip (charge their customers AND their internet peers for the same traffic).

We push several gigabit worth of traffic to Spark during peak periods.

Vodafone is a bit better, they're peering on NZIE.

NZ peering exchanges, of which Spark are on none of them:

https://ix.nz/service/peering/
http://ape.nzix.net/
https://www.megaport.com/services/ix-technical-details/

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epr: Anyone know what modem they provide with that service?

 

Hi there,

 

It's currently a Fritzbox, but we are moving to the NetComm NF18.

 

Cheers.





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