2degrees launches mobile data and SMS bundles

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#340935 12-Jun-2010 13:17

old3eyes: How do I know how much data I have use.

I looked at my usage just now and it shows

12/06/2010 10:35:24 AM Data Time 13:49 Charged Units 14.00 $0.00
Is that 14Meg or what??

Now I don't know if it applies to those on data packs, but from observation from costs at casual rates:

A session lasting n seconds * 0.005 = x megabytes used in that session

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#342198 16-Jun-2010 09:01

Nice to see that My 2Degrees I can now see what the data usage is when I log in

Individual balances:
Data: 31.96 MB
31.96 MB Data will expire on 07/07/2010

Thanx 2D :-)

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#346692 30-Jun-2010 16:04

Received a Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Android handset this week and had the opportunity to "buy" my first 50MB pack...

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#348137 5-Jul-2010 18:25

freitasm: Received a Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Android handset this week and had the opportunity to "buy" my first 50MB pack...

How many seconds did the pack last?

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#348146 5-Jul-2010 18:51

Good question... Still going. Used only for Exchange Synchronisation, FourSquare, Twitter. Sill have about 25MB since purchase.

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#348151 5-Jul-2010 19:01

ojala:
freitasm: Received a Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Android handset this week and had the opportunity to "buy" my first 50MB pack...

How many seconds did the pack last?
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I've been using an iPad hard out for a week and a half, on 3G, syncing 2 email accounts - work and personal - and moving stuff into Dropbox. I've used about 200MB.

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#348155 5-Jul-2010 19:15

freitasm: Good question... Still going. Used only for Exchange Synchronisation, FourSquare, Twitter. Sill have about 25MB since purchase.

Couple of years ago, when the option for jailbreaked iPhone 2 arrived, I was happy camper with a Nokia phone and 250Mb/month (not sure how much it was, a few hundred Mb max anyway) data package. When I got the iPhone 2, I hit the limit in less than a week and changed to a carrier with uncapped data. As it was EDGE-only, the package that was limited to 512 kbit/s was quite fine.

Moving to Android or iOS changes the data use dramatically. The arrival of m.xxx sites helps, though.

PS. My iPad 3G has accounted 120 Mbytes of 3G data over two months. A bit surprising really considering that the device has barely left the wi-fi coverage.

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#348157 5-Jul-2010 19:23

ojala: Moving to Android or iOS changes the data use dramatically. The arrival of m.xxx sites helps, though.

Not for me actually. I have been using Windows Mobile devices since about 2003, and Windows Mobile Phone Edition since 2005. Actually I had a couple of Symbian devices before that (including the old Nokia 3650 with those circular keypads).

I always used mobile data (even in CSD form with a Handspring Visorphone back in 2001) and when the first Windows Mobile Phone Edition came out I was using it.

Even though I use a bit (Exchange sync, Google Maps, Twitter, mobile browser, app downloads), I never really went over 350MB on my handset. Sometimes us more than 1.5GB on a USB modem though if visiting another city on meetings or conference.

Also remember my 2degrees SIM card is only used for testing. My main accounts are on Telecom.

Granted Apple made mobile data "popular" but it existed before the iPhone came out...

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#348163 5-Jul-2010 19:39

freitasm: Granted Apple made mobile data "popular" but it existed before the iPhone came out...

Yeah, I was using CSD to download and reply to email from my hotel breakfast table on a Nokia 9210 Communicator, and before that using a brick hooked to a laptop.

You think $6 for 50MB is expensive, try 9600 CSD while roaming in the UK, on decade-old rates. I averaged $1500 AU a month in that job.

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#348166 5-Jul-2010 19:57

Granted Apple made mobile data "popular" but it existed before the iPhone came out...

Of course, it's been happening since early mid 90's but phones really got connected with Android and iOS, and perhaps we can include WinMo there as well. 5+ years ago mobile data was an add-on, today an Android or iOS phone without mobile data is pretty crippled. You don't care about it any more, the connection is there instead of being dialled out.

I've been following Nokia for the last 20+ years and their major problem is that they really never got the Internet. iPhone was the first phone for the internet generation.

PS. I just noticed that my local carrier changed the mobile data prices from 1st July -- just three options now, 384 kbit/s, 1 Mbit/s or unlimited. All are uncapped, from 9 NZD/month to 25 NZD/month. I had an old 36 NZD/month @ 1 Mbit/s package, fast enough and available most of the time, and now I switched on their on-line service to the new one. Price goes down, speed goes up, effective immediately. No 12 or 24 month terms, month by month. And now to the process of cutting the SIM card for the iPhone 4.. ;-)

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#348171 5-Jul-2010 20:06

I think it's a good step for the NZ mobile market to have 2 Degrees come out with this latest deal on data.

Having said that, I don't believe it's a step in the right direction. Sure, it is cheap to buy 50mb of data, but is "cheap" more important than the data allowance? Shouldn't telcos be fighting it out for top position in terms of how much data they can provide AND lowering costs at the same time? It's alot to ask perhaps in a smaller market?

I tend to think there are two types of data users - power users (on-the-go, always connected, tethering etc) and the social users (Facebook, Twitter, odd pages here and there. Either way, this deal appears to be focused on social users.

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#348174 5-Jul-2010 20:15

im a heavy internet users, around 120GB a month. But I'm pretty much always around wifi (work + home), so these small cheap data packs are brilliant for me, i do use the internet a lot, but im not watching youtube, downloading movies from itunes etc out and about, ill do that a home/work.

the only time ive ever tried to watch a youtube video on my iphone it was way to slow i gave up and now never do it (youtube is even burried on my last page in a folder).

the thing that kinda annoys me is, you need 2 sims for iphone/ipad on 2 plans, would be nice if you could have 2 sims on the same account and share the same data/mins/txts etc.

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#348220 5-Jul-2010 22:42

heavenlywild:is "cheap" more important than the data allowance? Shouldn't telcos be fighting it out for top position in terms of how much data they can provide AND lowering costs at the same time? .

I can't see any Telcos wanting to do that. Sure like you say it would be good to see but if Telco's start offering competetive data plans at competetive prices, then we may see people starting to think that the same should be in effect for their home internet connections.

I can't see any current ISP wanting to take a plunge and say "Here's a good amount of data at affordable rates" it's just not practical as once one commits to it (of course I mean one that's not Telecom) they set expectations that others will do the same. Take the removal of Big Time as a classic example average service with unlimited data at a relatively reasonable price. It came it saw and then got booted as none of the other ISP's came out and did the same (most likely due to that they are mainly Telecom resellers)

Reality is that mobile or home internet plans are charged at a monopoly service rate not actually a true reflection of the rate it actually costs. Most ISP's could easily double there data plans with no real problems arising from it other than everyone going "Thank god at last we have competetive broadband in what's not a 3rd world country" But while they can maintain those great profit margins and restrictive plans hell why not charge the earth. Especially when we are all willing to pay.

2Degrees is a prime example of what i'm actually trying to say they arrived stirred it up a little and tried to make some competition within NZ by offering better pricing options for users. I think most would agree 2degrees did that quite well 200k+ signing up pretty quick that's a lot of people saying "Thank god for someone standing up and saying why are we charging the earth for services that don't actually cost a lot"

If memory serves me right i read a articvle recently that stated for the cost of 100 minutes of calling on a cellphone in NZ would get you 1000 in the States. Sure you could argue that they are bigger than us have more people and more competition but it really doesn't change the fact that we are getting ripped off by all ISP's whether they're charging for mobile data or home data it's definitely over priced for what we get.

What we need is some competition not FTTH sink the government should be investing in getting better services to our country by helping create some competition to the Southern Cross Cable not investing in FTTR (Fibre to the Rich). Don't get me wrong I would love my data coming at 100mbps (may have my B or b mixed up hehe) but is there a point of creating something that most will likely not be able to afford.

When will the providers actually do just that provide us with the service that we are actually crying out for. Better speeds and better data caps at a realistic price. You only have to read the thread about how much data some people were using to know that there is actually a demand for decent data caps at decent rates.

Sorry rant over hehe.

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#348306 6-Jul-2010 10:03

Although these data packs are very welcome, I am hoping for something even better when they launch 3G. With average use (email sync, maps, browser use, twitter, RSS feed sync) I can get through 200MB, sometimes a bit over per month. I would be hoping to pay not much more than $10-12 per month for this, twice as much is getting a bit expensive, and I find myself shutting off data services from time to time to save data. Not ideal.

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#348320 6-Jul-2010 10:30

jtbthatsme:

Reality is that mobile or home internet plans are charged at a monopoly service rate not actually a true reflection of the rate it actually costs. Most ISP's could easily double there data plans with no real problems arising from it other than everyone going "Thank god at last we have competetive broadband in what's not a 3rd world country" But while they can maintain those great profit margins and restrictive plans hell why not charge the earth. Especially when we are all willing to pay.
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how much profit do you think ISPs make from broadband (not from other stuff like fixed line calling, mobile etc)? just curious.

you might be interested in the following two articles

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/2300968/Losses-now-Wooshs-biggest-asset

http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/orcon-slashes-staff-hikes-prices-101972

2Degrees is a prime example of what i'm actually trying to say they arrived stirred it up a little and tried to make some competition within NZ by offering better pricing options for users. I think most would agree 2degrees did that quite well 200k+ signing up pretty quick that's a lot of people saying "Thank god for someone standing up and saying why are we charging the earth for services that don't actually cost a lot"

for calling minutes yes they are a lot cheaper (and you don;t even know if they are making a profit off those minutes or not), but you are aware that Telecom offers cheaper prepay mobile broadband than 2 degrees does, right?

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