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ajw

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  #542452 8-Nov-2011 11:33
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droan: One things isnt right about the press release. Vodafone is faster than Telecom on the 3G network! Yes, Telecom used to be faster but vodafone has invest in it's infrastructure the past few years. Also one thing to consider is the new LTD or 4G network that is planned for 2014 (I think). Who will roll it out first? Voda or Tele?

In regards to the Mobile virtual Operator, I think the regulars has set a fixed price for telecom n Vodafone to supply to any other players like 2 degree/telstra and soon to be slingshot. And if you compares all the relevant company so far each has it's own advantages.

It is true that launching a new plan which undercut the rest of the suppliers would make a impact, but i dont think it will have a price war as such i.e. current phone line/internet hasnt move on prices. But instead telco focused on added value based strategy to win more customers.

For example, Vodafone has just upped their ultimate plan from 45g to 60g in response to other telco's competitiveness  They have increased the data plan twice in less then half a year from 30g to now 60g! Now that's what I call market competition.

With more and more players joining the market, major 2 telco suppliers wont enjoy the rich margin that they used to enjoy and that's great news for us as customers as it is about bloody time!

NZ still have one of the highest mobile charges and it's great that it's gradually coming down. Give credit to company like Slingshot/2degree who recognise the gap really wants to make a impact. It is them who are driving cheaper and more reasonable pricing for us! 


 Just a couple of points until Callplus/Slingshot release their new plans using the XT network I won't know if they are going to be cheaper for voice, txt, and data. Secondly I respect what they have done with regards to building their own network but I have not seen any pass through from the regulation of mobile termination rates which were cut from 16 cents per minute down to the current 5.88 cents per minute, dropping again in April 2012 to 3.97 cents per minute in the 2 degrees casual prepay rate.

 
 
 

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  #542462 8-Nov-2011 11:44
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DjShadow: Mins: 20-30
Texts: 2500
Data: 1-2Gig

Cost $40

I'm prob dreaming but it would be nice


that's less than what I get from  VF.... for $40

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  #542485 8-Nov-2011 12:09
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blakamin:
DjShadow: Mins: 20-30
Texts: 2500
Data: 1-2Gig

Cost $40

I'm prob dreaming but it would be nice


that's less than what I get from  VF.... for $40



What plan is that?



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  #542488 8-Nov-2011 12:12
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40 smart plan. I think they changed it to 45 and 1 gig data.
I get 60 mins, 2500 text, 1000 pxt, 3 gig

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  #542492 8-Nov-2011 12:15
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The smart $45 plan here - http://www.vodafone.co.nz/phones-plans/plans/smart/

only has 250mb of data, unless i am reading the bonus wrong and it is for the length of contract and not 6 months.

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  #542496 8-Nov-2011 12:19
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Ah, ok. Got my plan before that came out. Got 3gig forever. They'll probably do that again in 4 months.
I rarely go over 600 Meg

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  #542499 8-Nov-2011 12:21
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blakamin: Ah, ok. Got my plan before that came out. Got 3gig forever. They'll probably do that again in 4 months.
I rarely go over 600 Meg


Yeah it would be a great deal if the 1gb was for life, will have to keep an eye out for it. 



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  #542514 8-Nov-2011 12:38
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ajw:
droan: One things isnt right about the press release. Vodafone is faster than Telecom on the 3G network! Yes, Telecom used to be faster but vodafone has invest in it's infrastructure the past few years. Also one thing to consider is the new LTD or 4G network that is planned for 2014 (I think). Who will roll it out first? Voda or Tele?

In regards to the Mobile virtual Operator, I think the regulars has set a fixed price for telecom n Vodafone to supply to any other players like 2 degree/telstra and soon to be slingshot. And if you compares all the relevant company so far each has it's own advantages.

It is true that launching a new plan which undercut the rest of the suppliers would make a impact, but i dont think it will have a price war as such i.e. current phone line/internet hasnt move on prices. But instead telco focused on added value based strategy to win more customers.

For example, Vodafone has just upped their ultimate plan from 45g to 60g in response to other telco's competitiveness  They have increased the data plan twice in less then half a year from 30g to now 60g! Now that's what I call market competition.

With more and more players joining the market, major 2 telco suppliers wont enjoy the rich margin that they used to enjoy and that's great news for us as customers as it is about bloody time!

NZ still have one of the highest mobile charges and it's great that it's gradually coming down. Give credit to company like Slingshot/2degree who recognise the gap really wants to make a impact. It is them who are driving cheaper and more reasonable pricing for us! 


 Just a couple of points until Callplus/Slingshot release their new plans using the XT network I won't know if they are going to be cheaper for voice, txt, and data. Secondly I respect what they have done with regards to building their own network but I have not seen any pass through from the regulation of mobile termination rates which were cut from 16 cents per minute down to the current 5.88 cents per minute, dropping again in April 2012 to 3.97 cents per minute in the 2 degrees casual prepay rate.


It takes 4 to tangle!

Looking through telco scene, it took Orcon, Slingshot, World exch, and some other "smaller" player to drop the phone price from Telecom and Vodafone. Lets see if Slingshot will really make a dent!  

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  #542522 8-Nov-2011 12:48
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You're right - Telecom, Vodafone, TelstraClear etc should have dropped their Land to Cellular pricing, but didn't

Following the MTR regulation earlier in the year, Slingshot launched a new homeline calling plan called "Talk-A-Lot"
Key feature:

14cpm to call any kiwi landline or mobile or landline in Australia.

AFAIK Telecom has not changed their rates: http://www.telecom.co.nz/phoneline/phoneline/connections/homeline
Still promoting national landline calling at 31cpm (18cpm on anytime) and calls to kiwi mobiles at 49cpm (39cpm on anytime) - note that it costs even more to call non-telecom mobiles - up to 55cpm.

There's a lot of difference between 14cpm and 55cpm....

I appreciate that this particular audience probably doesn't find landline calling particularly exciting, but the principle of passing on savings is important/relevant.

 




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  #542530 8-Nov-2011 12:54
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2degrees have their own network but (At launch at least) use the vodafone network when out of coverage of their own towers.




droan

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  #542544 8-Nov-2011 13:08
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"Consumer" has a mobile plan comparison website (forgot the website address now). If Slingshot can be consistently the 1st choice on all the options, that will be a good starting point!

ajw

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  #542607 8-Nov-2011 14:31
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Slingshot: 2degrees have their own network but (At launch at least) use the vodafone network when out of coverage of their own towers.


But I note that they are rolling out cellsites madly throughout the country. Being that 2 degrees have to pay vfone roaming rates could be preventing them passing through the cuts in mobile termination rates. I do wish they would offer a on net best mate type plan but I note 2 degrees has lobbied the Commerce Commission against these on net plans.

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  #543338 9-Nov-2011 21:15
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A couple of things I would like to see is  txt and data

maybe small plan for people like me and  younger ones
If I buy  x amount of txts for x amount  with x amount of data I can use those thing in my own time  and not within a month, just like topping up.
So if i want 100mbs of data for my internet i don have to worry about losing it in a month
same with txts, my daughter would love that.

we both dont use phone for much else.

cheers

not much of an impact but good for low users.

droan

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  #543383 9-Nov-2011 22:07
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hddog: A couple of things I would like to see is  txt and data

maybe small plan for people like me and  younger ones
If I buy  x amount of txts for x amount  with x amount of data I can use those thing in my own time  and not within a month, just like topping up.
So if i want 100mbs of data for my internet i don have to worry about losing it in a month
same with txts, my daughter would love that.

we both dont use phone for much else.

cheers

not much of an impact but good for low users.


Sounds like a good idea about the prepay txt n data plans. However,  dont think Slingshot can do prepay becos they are virtual mobile op. But i think that's a cool idea regardless. 2 degree do have something similar its call a national data plan $10 for 100mb or something and something on the txt side of things too. 

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  #543529 10-Nov-2011 10:19
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Currently I would swap if slingshot offered to pay my ETF fee from Vodafone as I'm in a 24 month contract as I would believe a large number of people.
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So currently I pay $60 a month (I think)
60min Anytime
2500txt
3gb Data
1000 Free Pix

So the Min that I would move to slingshot would be:
No more then $40 pp
60min Voice
20min Video
200min Slingshot to Slingshot Mobile calling <<<<<
1000txt
100MMS
1gb data


Note: I see alot of providers have no done this for some time.... offering Inter-provider free/cheep calling.

Thanks
Bevin

PS: I'm a customer too I should/do get a say!




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