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# 143495 16-Apr-2014 20:39
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Hi, I've had Orcon 100/50 UFB for just over a year now (so not in contract anymore, yay!) and it seems to be getting slower and slower each day to a point where this is my speed to the local Christchurch Snap server.



For reference, this is what my speeds used to be like to the local Christchurch Snap server.



Seems strange, would there be any reason for this or are they just overselling their network? Usually the ping is about 30, but now it seems to be 60, I do get a better ping to other servers around New Zealand, but even still, I loved having a 30ms ping to AU game servers, now I get about 50-70 which is very noticeable.
I've also noticed my IP now says I'm I'm Nelson, It used to say I was in Auckland. Don't know if this would have any affect?

Oh and It's worth adding, from about 6 months ago my connection and phone has dropped out 4-5 times for about 3-5 days each time. Yes, I rung Orcon straight away when this happened, got a ticket, etc.
Oh, and the Orcon call centre technicians, well, you'll find out quite quickly that they aren't technicians.

I'm a first time poster so hopefully I haven't screwed up, please direct me if i did, Thanks! :)

Edit: For some reason this forum keeps hyperlinking my text, I've selected it and un-hyperlinked it and clicked update, but it just puts it back... Kinda glitchy...
Edit2: Un hyperlinked it 5 times then it finally worked. Annoying! :P

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  # 1026429 16-Apr-2014 20:39
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

 



 

- you have reset your modem and router

 


 

- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing

 

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Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

 



 

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  # 1026441 16-Apr-2014 20:55
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What is your speed like to the Orcon speedtest server at speedtest.orcon.net.nz?

Were those dropout periods when you made any plan changes by any chance? We had an issue with one of the LFC's causing outages when plan changes were made but I think that has been resolved for some time now....




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  # 1026445 16-Apr-2014 21:17
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FireEngine: What is your speed like to the Orcon speedtest server at speedtest.orcon.net.nz?

Were those dropout periods when you made any plan changes by any chance? We had an issue with one of the LFC's causing outages when plan changes were made but I think that has been resolved for some time now....


Orcon Speedtest
Last Result:
Download Speed: 78067 kbps (9758.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 3355 kbps (419.4 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 26 ms
16 April 2014 9:14:26 pm NZST

Have no idea why Upload is so slow?
My plan hasn't been changed in a good 9 months, so not that...



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  # 1026534 17-Apr-2014 02:42
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Wow, It's seriously getting worse.

Local (Chch) Snap Server:


 

Orcon (Auckland) Server:

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  # 1026537 17-Apr-2014 05:19
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your latency seems high, your upload speeds a bit low, and a lot more variable.

are you sure your not saturating a link?




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  # 1026583 17-Apr-2014 08:36
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hio77: your latency seems high, your upload speeds a bit low, and a lot more variable.

are you sure your not saturating a link?


Yeah, my connection has been very unreliable in the past day, pings randomly rise to 100ms (to orcon.net.nz) then return back to 30.

Has anyone else had fiber for a good 6 months and seen it slow down? Because the ping problem started about 3 months back, when rather then getting a ping (to orcon.net.nz) of about 2, It's now 25-30. 

No, I'm not 'saturating' a link? Theres actually not much traffic coming from any of my computers at the moment.

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  # 1026597 17-Apr-2014 08:57
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I assume these tests are over Ethernet, and not WiFi?


 
 
 
 




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  # 1026617 17-Apr-2014 09:14
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sbiddle: I assume these tests are over Ethernet, and not WiFi?



Ah yes, should've said before, all done on Ethernet, don't really use WiFi :P

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  # 1027133 17-Apr-2014 22:30
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Does it improve after you reset all your gear? Pro tip: get a ticket from orcons helpdesk and post it here.



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  # 1027288 18-Apr-2014 12:38
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MadEngineer: Does it improve after you reset all your gear? Pro tip: get a ticket from orcons helpdesk and post it here.


I'm going to do all that now and report back, also will open a ticket.

Just before i do that I thought I'd do a couple more tests:

Last Result:
Download Speed: 6317 kbps (789.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 5663 kbps (707.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
Latency: 159 ms
18 April 2014 12:04:54 pm NZST

traceroute to orcon.net.nz (60.234.4.77), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
1 bob.orcon (10.1.1.1) 10.642 ms 0.521 ms 5.443 ms
2 121-99-252-1.bng1.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.99.252.1) 159.872 ms 250.089 ms 359.944 ms
3 xe-2-2-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.141) 157.151 ms 157.216 ms 165.198 ms
4 orcon.net.nz (60.234.4.77) 160.353 ms 163.566 ms 157.778 ms

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  # 1027292 18-Apr-2014 12:52
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BensDaMan:
MadEngineer: Does it improve after you reset all your gear? Pro tip: get a ticket from orcons helpdesk and post it here.


I'm going to do all that now and report back, also will open a ticket.


Pointless doing too much testing at the moment, big land slip is affecting all fibre services between WTN and Chch so most if not all ISPs are having backhaul issues along that route.




Regards FireEngine




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  # 1027341 18-Apr-2014 14:37
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MadEngineer: Does it improve after you reset all your gear? Pro tip: get a ticket from orcons helpdesk and post it here.


Well, now nothing at all is working and I'm writing this from my iPhones 3G. I'm going to launch a ticket and hope this doesn't take 4 days to fix like the last times.
F%*king Orcon is such a piece of s#!t sometimes.

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  # 1027379 18-Apr-2014 14:51
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BensDaMan:Well, now nothing at all is working and I'm writing this from my iPhones 3G. I'm going to launch a ticket and hope this doesn't take 4 days to fix like the last times.
F%*king Orcon is such a piece of s#!t sometimes.


If it does take 4 days to fix then its likely that Mother Nature dumping a few hundred tonnes of rocks on the fibre had something to do with it.

Frustrating I know but the techs are struggling to even get access to the areas because of damage to the roads. All the ISPs with customers in Chch and South are affected.




Regards FireEngine


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  # 1027385 18-Apr-2014 14:59
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Jumping up and down isn't going to fix storm related damage any faster. Many ISPs are suffering performance issues at present with the South Island being very badly hit and some other ISPs such as Snap are being impacted quite significantly.


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  # 1027400 18-Apr-2014 15:13
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His slow speed issue was prior to the storm and probably will need to be raised, but certainly not now given the power outages, broken fibre etc. Thankfully 3G hasn't gone yet.

Raise your issue with Orcon once you have re-established a consistent connection, have rebooted your router, checked your own computer and still find your speeds are down. Every other ISP has the same issues with speed drop offs etc, no point in hanging ORCON out to dry if you haven't even bothered to contact them.




 

 

 


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