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# 146716 27-May-2014 08:24
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Hi team,

New to the forum and have been out of the it game in nz for a few years but am looking for a new isp. Currently on a historic Vodafone plan with 100gb data that caps when I reach it with an option to buy more. Landline included and I see speds of around 10mb down and 1 to 2 up. Primary use is gaming but I do occasionally download and average around 100gb use per month.

Looking at orcons plans my options are 80gb or unlimited, I've ruled the 80 out as it wouldn't be enough which leads me to questions about the unlimited plans.

1. I'm in a zone that can get vdsl. Can I expect triple or near that of my speeds above on it?

2. Are the plans traffic managed or data shaped in any way? I have no interest in moving to an ISP where I get slowed down at peak times

3. Are there any differences in ping between vdsl and adsl

Thanks

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  # 1054056 27-May-2014 08:24
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Hello... Our robot found some keywords in your post, so here is an automated reply with some important things to note regarding broadband speeds.

 



 

If you are posting regarding DSL speeds please check that

 



 

- you have reset your modem and router

 


 

- your PC (or other PCs in your LAN) is not downloading large files when you are testing

 

- you are not being throttled by your ISP due to going over the monthly cap

 


 

- your tests are always done on an ethernet connection to the router - do not use wireless for testing

 


 

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- Your ISP and plan

 


 

- Type of connection (ADSL, ADSL2, VDSL)

 


 

- Your modem DSL stats (do not worry about posting Speedtest, we need sync rate, attenuation and noise margin)

 


 

- Your general location (or street)

 


 

- If you are rural or urban

 


 

- If you know your connection is to an exchange, cabinet or conklin

 


 

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- If you have done an isolation test as per the link above

 



 

Most of the problems with speed are likely to be related to internal wiring issues. Read this discussion to find out more about this. Your ISP is not intentionally slowing you down today (unless you are on a managed plan). Also if this is the school holidays it's likely you will notice slower than usual speed due to more users online.

 



 

A master splitter is required for VDSL2 and in most cases will improve speeds on DSL connections. Regular disconnections can be a monitored alarm or a set top box trying to connect. If there's an alarm connected to your line even if you don't have an alarm contract it may still try to connect so it's worth checking.

 



 

I recommend you read these two blog posts:

 



 

- Is your premises phone wiring impacting your broadband performance? (very technical)

 


 

- Are you receiving a substandard ULL ADSL2+ connection from your ISP?




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  # 1054076 27-May-2014 08:40
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1) Potentially ;-) Depends on your line quality and distance from exchange.

2) Nope, we don't do any traffic management or have a fair use policy.

3) The last mile ping will be a tiny bit smaller, depending on your line quality.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1064582 13-Jun-2014 00:31
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Unfortunately that has not been my experience...

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=82&topicid=147234



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  # 1064587 13-Jun-2014 00:39
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alchemist53: Unfortunately that has not been my experience...

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=82&topicid=147234


See my reply to your other thread. We don't have any intentional traffic management in place and haven't done for quite some time. No point in waking up old threads, we will still look at it as a fault. I've confirmed it as affecting my connection, no further proof required, this is the first report I've seen, what time did you first notice it when your power was restored?




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  # 1064590 13-Jun-2014 00:56
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Point taken that you don't traffic shape, I'm only happy to assume it's a fault (I assume you work for Orcon?) My power was restored at about 3pm today, it wasn't until about 9pm this evening I noticed the fault with P2P traffic. It is an unusual fault though because if I obfuscate P2P headers it works fine? 

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  # 1064596 13-Jun-2014 01:06
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alchemist53: Point taken that you don't traffic shape, I'm only happy to assume it's a fault (I assume you work for Orcon?) My power was restored at about 3pm today, it wasn't until about 9pm this evening I noticed the fault with P2P traffic. It is an unusual fault though because if I obfuscate P2P headers it works fine? 


You can see he works for Orcon because of the little Shield under his avatar, and Orcon.

Some ISP employees on geekzone forget to set that field, but generally have a disclaimer in their signature or something. A couple don't even tell you and you have to figure it all out yourself... those ones drive me nuts.

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  # 1064602 13-Jun-2014 01:13
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alchemist53: Point taken that you don't traffic shape, I'm only happy to assume it's a fault (I assume you work for Orcon?) My power was restored at about 3pm today, it wasn't until about 9pm this evening I noticed the fault with P2P traffic. It is an unusual fault though because if I obfuscate P2P headers it works fine? 


Yes I'm Orcon staff. If Ok I'll update the other thread so everything is kept in one place....




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  # 1064610 13-Jun-2014 01:20
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Okay no prob

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  # 1064629 13-Jun-2014 06:02
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I max my Torrects all the time depending on the seed speed. I moved from a 200gb plan to unlimited and noticed no change in speed or MMO game performance (ADSL2).

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  # 1064654 13-Jun-2014 08:12
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Sounddude:

3) The last mile ping will be a tiny bit smaller, depending on your line quality.


You could actually end up with slightly higher last-mile ping on VDSL, if you end up on, say, one of the 16ms DLM profiles.

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