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  Reply # 167833 29-Sep-2008 21:27
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hello,

I'd like to hear if people are still experiencing high latency to internode. our transit provider has advised that it is resolved:

Macintosh-4:~ thomas$ traceroute internode.net.au
traceroute to internode.net.au (203.16.214.27), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  sx763 (192.168.2.1)  1.419 ms  0.778 ms  1.103 ms
 2  60.234.8.201 (60.234.8.201)  24.312 ms  22.136 ms  17.581 ms
 3  ge-0-0-4-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.1)  30.344 ms  27.050 ms  19.492 ms
 4  ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.34)  17.616 ms  17.649 ms  18.405 ms
 5  ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net (203.192.166.69)  23.181 ms  20.372 ms  43.619 ms
 6  po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.55.254)  40.786 ms  48.942 ms  41.816 ms
 7  gi1-3.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.40.190)  40.590 ms  42.636 ms  42.237 ms
 8  gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net (202.147.40.194)  43.650 ms  43.273 ms  46.110 ms
 9  gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net (150.101.197.41)  42.342 ms  52.378 ms  42.179 ms
10  pos3-1.bdr2.adl2.internode.on.net (203.16.212.134)  64.853 ms  62.946 ms  62.355 ms
11  po2.cor3.adl2.internode.on.net (203.16.212.155)  61.887 ms  64.642 ms  63.892 ms
12  *^C
Macintosh-4:~ thomas$ traceroute 150.101.172.75
traceroute to 150.101.172.75 (150.101.172.75), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  sx763 (192.168.2.1)  2.798 ms  0.683 ms  3.878 ms
 2  60.234.8.201 (60.234.8.201)  17.831 ms  21.960 ms  18.833 ms
 3  ge-0-0-4-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.5)  19.451 ms  18.438 ms  18.654 ms
 4  ae1-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.13)  19.909 ms  18.836 ms  18.479 ms
 5  ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.34)  18.212 ms  18.290 ms  18.023 ms
 6  ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net (203.192.166.69)  20.331 ms  57.619 ms  67.685 ms
 7  po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.55.254)  52.105 ms  42.054 ms  40.856 ms
 8  gi1-3.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.40.190)  43.729 ms  68.247 ms  43.127 ms
 9  gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net (202.147.40.194)  79.330 ms  41.827 ms  41.889 ms
10  gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net (150.101.197.41)  41.760 ms  42.837 ms  43.712 ms
11  pos3-2.bdr2.adl2.internode.on.net (203.16.212.141)  95.690 ms  93.190 ms  94.815 ms
12  po3.bdr1.adl6.internode.on.net (203.16.212.146)  95.036 ms  91.565 ms  92.786 ms
13  pos6-0.cor1.per2.internode.on.net (150.101.134.210)  92.710 ms  95.100 ms  104.484 ms
14  150.101.172.75 (150.101.172.75)  105.931 ms  128.820 ms  99.181 ms



if anyone is not seeing an improvement please let me know, with an example trace. if anyone who is experiencing issues is able to provide a trace back in the opposite direction that would be even better.

cheers
thomas

cto
orcon


(http://www.orcon.net.nz)
(http://linkstate.org)






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  Reply # 167835 29-Sep-2008 21:41
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FYI..

Tracing route to internode.net.au [203.16.214.27]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.11
  2    23 ms    22 ms    22 ms  60.234.8.201
  3    22 ms    23 ms    23 ms  ge-0-0-4-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.1]
  4    23 ms    23 ms    22 ms  ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.34]
  5    47 ms    48 ms    47 ms  ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net [203.192.166.69]
  6    46 ms    46 ms    47 ms  po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.55.254]
  7    47 ms    47 ms    48 ms  gi1-2.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.182]
  8    47 ms    47 ms    47 ms  gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.194]
  9   161 ms   161 ms   161 ms  gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net [150.101.197.41]
 10   184 ms   183 ms   183 ms  pos3-3.bdr2.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.212.177]
 11   183 ms   182 ms   191 ms  gi1-1.cor3.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.215.40]
 12   184 ms   182 ms   182 ms  pubweb.internode.on.net [203.16.214.27]


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 167853 29-Sep-2008 22:36
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At 22:36pm this is what I get:

traceroute to internode.net.au (203.16.214.27), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  169.254.141.11 (169.254.141.11)  40.140 ms  40.741 ms  41.193 ms
 2  lo-1.erx02.nct.orcon.net.nz (60.234.8.18)  79.288 ms  80.681 ms  81.855 ms
 3  121.98.9.21 (121.98.9.21)  81.798 ms  81.791 ms  82.489 ms
 4  ae0-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz (60.234.9.23)  84.254 ms  84.933 ms  86.128 ms
 5  ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.34)  87.097 ms  89.512 ms  90.783 ms
 6  ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net (203.192.166.69)  90.215 ms  54.703 ms  56.320 ms
 7  po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.55.254)  79.416 ms  62.984 ms  64.717 ms
 8  gi1-3.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.40.190)  97.025 ms  98.766 ms  100.062 ms
 9  gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net (202.147.40.194)  100.572 ms  101.481 ms  101.953 ms
10  gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net (150.101.197.41)  103.193 ms  103.663 ms  104.568 ms
11  pos3-1.bdr2.adl2.internode.on.net (203.16.212.134)  126.827 ms  128.675 ms  129.183 ms
12  gi1-17.cor1.adl6.internode.on.net (150.101.134.52)  129.643 ms  84.607 ms  92.002 ms
13  * * *




traceroute to 150.101.172.75 (150.101.172.75), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  169.254.141.11 (169.254.141.11)  40.143 ms  40.623 ms  41.029 ms
 2  lo-1.erx02.nct.orcon.net.nz (60.234.8.18)  78.637 ms  82.466 ms  84.245 ms
 3  121.98.9.21 (121.98.9.21)  84.199 ms  84.196 ms  84.175 ms
 4  ae0-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz (60.234.9.23)  84.156 ms  91.281 ms  91.265 ms
 5  ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz (121.98.9.34)  91.246 ms  91.226 ms  91.207 ms
 6  ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net (203.192.166.69)  91.187 ms  51.538 ms  53.608 ms
 7  po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.55.254)  77.260 ms  87.012 ms  83.585 ms
 8  gi1-3.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net (202.147.40.190)  96.825 ms  101.033 ms  101.781 ms
 9  gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net (202.147.40.194)  101.764 ms  111.656 ms  111.041 ms
10  gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net (150.101.197.41)  111.029 ms  111.011 ms  110.992 ms
11  pos5-0.bdr1.syd7.internode.on.net (150.101.120.66)  157.396 ms  159.142 ms  159.891 ms
12  pos2-1.bdr1.adl6.internode.on.net (150.101.134.157)  159.875 ms  160.677 ms  130.873 ms
13  pos6-0.cor1.per2.internode.on.net (150.101.134.210)  132.633 ms  117.737 ms  121.147 ms
14  150.101.172.75 (150.101.172.75)  123.895 ms  124.472 ms  127.009 ms

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  Reply # 167854 29-Sep-2008 22:37
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tsalmen:
hello,

I'd like to hear if people are still experiencing high latency to internode. our transit provider has advised that it is resolved:



nothing has changed,this is from tonight

Tracing route to sw3.per1.internode.on.net [150.101.0.172]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  mygateway1.ar7 [10.1.1.1]
  2    24 ms    22 ms    23 ms  60.234.8.201
  3    23 ms    23 ms    23 ms  ge-0-0-4-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.1]
  4    23 ms    23 ms    22 ms  ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.34]
  5    47 ms    47 ms    47 ms  ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net [203.192.166.69
]
  6    47 ms    47 ms    46 ms  po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.55.254]
  7    47 ms    50 ms    53 ms  gi1-2.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.182]
  8    47 ms    47 ms    47 ms  gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.194]

  9   161 ms   162 ms   164 ms  gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net [150.101.1
97.41]
 10   212 ms   211 ms   214 ms  pos5-0.bdr1.syd7.internode.on.net [150.101.120.6
6]
 11   214 ms   213 ms   212 ms  pos2-3.bdr1.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.212.22
]
 12   214 ms   211 ms   212 ms  pos3-0.cor1.per1.internode.on.net [203.16.212.16
9]
 13   212 ms   212 ms   212 ms  sw3.per1.internode.on.net [150.101.0.172]

Trace complete


Tracing route to 203.26.94.68 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  mygateway1.ar7 [10.1.1.1]
  2    23 ms    22 ms    23 ms  60.234.8.201
  3    23 ms    22 ms    23 ms  ge-0-0-4-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.5]
  4    23 ms    22 ms    23 ms  ae1-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
  5    23 ms    22 ms    23 ms  ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.34]
  6    47 ms    47 ms    47 ms  ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net [203.192.166.69
]
  7    46 ms    47 ms    47 ms  po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.55.254]
  8    48 ms    47 ms    46 ms  gi1-3.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.190]
  9    47 ms    47 ms    47 ms  gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.194]

 10   160 ms   161 ms   166 ms  gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net [150.101.1
97.41]
 11   253 ms   185 ms   185 ms  pos3-3.bdr2.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.212.17
7]
 12   184 ms   182 ms   183 ms  gi1-17.cor3.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.134.5
0]
 13   184 ms   184 ms   184 ms

its not just internode server pings that have ballooned out of control...my ping to this server used to be 300-350 before ADSL2
(not to mention the speeds are crap to )



if you dont get this sorted orcon YOU WILL LOSE CUSTOMERS.this has been going on to long

(what about crediting us,i mean we are still paying full price for a service we are not getting)

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  Reply # 167873 30-Sep-2008 00:16
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My trace seems to be the same also:

Tracing route to internode.net.au [203.16.214.27] over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1    78 ms   199 ms   100 ms  dsldevice.home [192.168.1.254]
  2     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms  Unknown-00-21-63-11-81-0b.home [192.168.0.1]
  3    13 ms    14 ms    15 ms  60.234.8.201
  4    12 ms    14 ms    14 ms  ge-0-0-4-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.5]
  5    15 ms   994 ms    16 ms  ae1-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
  6    14 ms    15 ms    14 ms  ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.34]
  7    37 ms   121 ms    38 ms  ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net [203.192.166.69]
  8    35 ms    34 ms    35 ms  po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.55.254]
  9    36 ms    34 ms    35 ms  gi1-2.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.182]
 10    38 ms    35 ms    38 ms  gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.194]
 11   149 ms   149 ms   149 ms  gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net [150.101.197.41]
 12   173 ms   175 ms   174 ms  pos3-1.bdr2.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.212.134]
 13   173 ms   175 ms   173 ms  gi1-17.cor1.adl6.internode.on.net [150.101.134.52]
 14   172 ms   170 ms   169 ms  pubweb.internode.on.net [203.16.214.27]

Hope your transit provider can help!

Cheers,

Aaron

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  Reply # 167874 30-Sep-2008 00:20
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My ping's not as bad as people here (Gold plan, Dunedin). The speed's still not what it should be though.


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Reply # 168138 30-Sep-2008 20:37
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pings to au and general international performance has not changed, similar to those posted here.
Pre ADSL2 my pings to internode servers were in the 40-50ms range.
any updates on when this will be resolved would be appreciated.

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    16 ms    15 ms    17 ms  60.234.8.201
  3    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  ge-0-0-4-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.5]
  4    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  ae1-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
  5    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.34]
  6    40 ms    43 ms    41 ms  ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net [203.192.166.69]
  7    40 ms    42 ms    41 ms  po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.55.254]
  8    41 ms    41 ms    40 ms  gi1-2.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.182]
  9    40 ms    41 ms    41 ms  gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.194]
 10   156 ms   156 ms   156 ms  gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net [150.101.197.41]
 11   197 ms   205 ms   179 ms  pos3-3.bdr2.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.212.177]
 12   178 ms   179 ms   177 ms  po3.cor1.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.212.153]
 13   178 ms   177 ms   178 ms  pubweb.internode.on.net [203.16.214.27]

Trace complete.

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  Reply # 168150 30-Sep-2008 21:15
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badltnt:
pings to au and general international performance has not changed, similar to those posted here.
Pre ADSL2 my pings to internode servers were in the 40-50ms range.
any updates on when this will be resolved would be appreciated.

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    16 ms    15 ms    17 ms  60.234.8.201
  3    16 ms    16 ms    15 ms  ge-0-0-4-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.5]
  4    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  ae1-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
  5    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  ge-1-3-0-0.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.34]
  6    40 ms    43 ms    41 ms  ge-2-2-0.gw4.akl1.asianetcom.net [203.192.166.69]
  7    40 ms    42 ms    41 ms  po4-0.cr2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.55.254]
  8    41 ms    41 ms    40 ms  gi1-2.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.182]
  9    40 ms    41 ms    41 ms  gi1-0-1.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net [202.147.40.194]
 10   156 ms   156 ms   156 ms  gig0-0-126.bdr1.syd6.internode.on.net [150.101.197.41]
 11   197 ms   205 ms   179 ms  pos3-3.bdr2.adl2.internode.on.net [203.16.212.177]
 12   178 ms   179 ms   177 ms  po3.cor1.adl6.internode.on.net [203.16.212.153]
 13   178 ms   177 ms   178 ms  pubweb.internode.on.net [203.16.214.27]

Trace complete.


If you want a QOS service pay for one,

Where do orcon advise ping times are going to be under a ms range (I bet they don't)




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  Reply # 168162 30-Sep-2008 21:35
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as far as i know orcon dont, I have not even looked. Did I ask you if they did ?
If I am unsatisfied with the service Im getting Ill switch ISP.
However, I would rather be part of a solution for the current circumstances than just sit around complaining and pointing out that other people have too high an expectation of things

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  Reply # 168163 30-Sep-2008 21:40
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Am not sure if this will help but still facing disconnection issues during peak times to international servers.(this was once fixed when orcon got in that lot of new international bandwith but has broken again ??)

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Reply # 168167 30-Sep-2008 21:41
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badltnt: as far as i know orcon dont, I have not even looked. Did I ask you if they did ?
If I am unsatisfied with the service Im getting Ill switch ISP.
However, I would rather be part of a solution for the current circumstances than just sit around complaining and pointing out that other people have too high an expectation of things


There is no fault with the ping times packets are getting there and back!

If you were paying for QOS thats the time when to complain

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  Reply # 168172 30-Sep-2008 21:50

dreamtype: Am not sure if this will help but still facing disconnection issues during peak times to international servers.(this was once fixed when orcon got in that lot of new international bandwith but has broken again ??)

CryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry

/start rant
I left Orcon so i could get more reliable speeds, and now im with Slingshot and they have the same issues (well very similar)

When Orcon had there speed issue pretty much fixed so did slingshot (and probaly xnet) and now we all have the same/similer issues back, there just is nothing they can do really.

The government (or Telecom!) has to stop wasting time! and spend some real money on a desent internet framework, and we NEED more then "1" pipe going in/out on NZ as we are going to always going to have International speed issues as long as we have that one crappy line going out of NZ :(

We can all keep switching ISP's and moving the problem to the next guy but honestly it wont get fixed until they get a better/more lines out/in of NZ.
And ISP's upgrading to ADSL 2+ wont make this issue go away it will just make it worse and worse! :(
Because if it was a in NZ issue then why do we get perfectly fine and blazingly fast speeds to other NZ servers.... ???? (but really slow International speeds......)
/end rant

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  Reply # 168181 30-Sep-2008 22:09
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TechnoGuy001:
dreamtype: Am not sure if this will help but still facing disconnection issues during peak times to international servers.(this was once fixed when orcon got in that lot of new international bandwith but has broken again ??)

CryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry

/start rant
I left Orcon so i could get more reliable speeds, and now im with Slingshot and they have the same issues (well very similar)

When Orcon had there speed issue pretty much fixed so did slingshot (and probaly xnet) and now we all have the same/similer issues back, there just is nothing they can do really.

The government (or Telecom!) has to stop wasting time! and spend some real money on a desent internet framework, and we NEED more then "1" pipe going in/out on NZ as we are going to always going to have International speed issues as long as we have that one crappy line going out of NZ :(

We can all keep switching ISP's and moving the problem to the next guy but honestly it wont get fixed until they get a better/more lines out/in of NZ.
And ISP's upgrading to ADSL 2+ wont make this issue go away it will just make it worse and worse! :(
Because if it was a in NZ issue then why do we get perfectly fine and blazingly fast speeds to other NZ servers.... ???? (but really slow International speeds......)
/end rant


More than one cable out of NZ
also look up specs of southern cross cable network particularly how much is in use
On orcon llu and having brilliant speeds all the time!

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  Reply # 168186 30-Sep-2008 22:17

snnet:

More than one cable out of NZ
also look up specs of southern cross cable network particularly how much is in use
On orcon llu and having brilliant speeds all the time!

Ah ok.
Well something is slowing us all down, maybe there slowing all us ADSL 1 people so that the ADSL 2+ people can get there promised speed...
Just a thought.
As this isn't the first time i'v herd that us ADSL 1 people where all going slow but a friend of mine who was on ADSL 2+ never noticed a thing, he was still going blazingly fast

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  Reply # 168187 30-Sep-2008 22:21
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I'm with Vodafone now (ex Orcon, but posted many times here) and have no international speed latency issues what so-ever.

Big improvement.  Also on Xtra I always had perfect International speeds.

From my experiences, I doubt it is becuase of having only one cable.




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Garmin introduces the Rino 700 five-watt two-way handheld radio
Posted 17-Aug-2017 19:04


Garmin announces the Foretrex 601 and Foretrex 701 Ballistic Edition for outdoor and tactical use
Posted 17-Aug-2017 19:02


Brightstar announces new distribution partnership with Samsung Knox platform in Australia
Posted 17-Aug-2017 17:07


Free gig-enabled WiFi network extends across Dunedin
Posted 17-Aug-2017 17:04


Samsung expands with connect Gear S3 Frontier
Posted 17-Aug-2017 15:55


Fact-checking Southern Cross Next cable is fastest to USA
Posted 17-Aug-2017 13:57


Thurrott says Microsoft Surface is dead last for reliability
Posted 16-Aug-2017 15:19


LibreOffice 5.4 works better with Microsoft Office files
Posted 16-Aug-2017 13:32


Certus launches Cognition
Posted 14-Aug-2017 09:31


Spark adds Cambridge, Turangi to 4.5G network
Posted 10-Aug-2017 17:55


REANNZ network to receive ongoing Government funding through to 2024
Posted 10-Aug-2017 16:05


Chorus backhaul starts with 2degrees
Posted 10-Aug-2017 15:49


New Zealanders cool on data analytics catching benefit fraud
Posted 10-Aug-2017 09:56



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