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Topic # 26562 25-Sep-2008 21:11
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Is there anyway to get rid of static IP that orcon has in orcon@home network?

My IP has been the same for ages, never changes. I call up helpdesk but they say orcon does not give static ip.

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  Reply # 167208 25-Sep-2008 23:20
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Have you tried turning off your router for half an hour and see if your assigned a different one.

Why don't you want a static IP address?



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  Reply # 167213 25-Sep-2008 23:32
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for security reason. i dont like the idea of having the same ip address all the time. It's not like i will ever host a server that need a static ip

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  Reply # 167232 26-Sep-2008 06:21
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newbiejam: for security reason. i dont like the idea of having the same ip address all the time. It's not like i will ever host a server that need a static ip


Having a static IP doesn't make you any less secure that having a dynamic IP. Providing you have security measures in place such as a firewall there is no real difference having a static vs dynamic IP.

Many people here would love to have a static IP but can't.



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  Reply # 167240 26-Sep-2008 08:04
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When I joined orcon a couple of years ago they gave a free static ip to all their customers.
I would assume that they are just continuing to always re assign the same ip to each connection.




Hmmmm




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  Reply # 167242 26-Sep-2008 08:08
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yes, it seems they never changed.

I call up helpdesk and the guy says its not exactly "static", if i change my adsl port or move house my ip will change.

DUH! orcon has very helpful helpdesk

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  Reply # 167244 26-Sep-2008 08:11
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even if you didn't have a static ip, you'd have to go through the very manual process of resetting your modem every time you want to change your ip.  it's really not a big deal in fact static ip's are a good thing.  as said before as long as you have security behind your modem you're fine.

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  Reply # 167272 26-Sep-2008 09:31
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Yeah as gehenna says, every time you connect you get an ip for that entire session (My last session was 6 weeks) so even if you did have a dynamic ip then you would need to restart your ppp session every time you want to change.




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  Reply # 167280 26-Sep-2008 09:46
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gehenna:  it's really not a big deal in fact static ip's are a good thing.  as said before as long as you have security behind your modem you're fine.


Unless, present company excepted, you've been blocked or banned from somewhere based on ip address :)

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  Reply # 167281 26-Sep-2008 09:55
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if they were serious about blocking you there are other ways than just by IP address.  I'd suggest if they are serious they would use a MAC address to identify and block your modem or router.  Are you going to change your network card every time you want to change your IP as well? ;)

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  Reply # 167284 26-Sep-2008 09:58
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LOL!

To think some people here would LOVE to get a static IP and you want to get rid of yours...

Orcon here as well, and love my 'static'.




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  Reply # 167306 26-Sep-2008 11:31
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The flip side of this: My understanding is, and correct me if I am wrong, but Dynamic IP's really came from the days of dialup where the ISP didnt need to have an IP address for every customer because the vast majority of customers only dialup on demand, so you might only have 10% or 20% of your users connected at any one time, so why shell out for more IP's than you need.
The vast majority of Broadband customers however are always online, and so the ISP just about needs enough IP's for every customer - so why not give customers a Static IP if they ask for one?

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  Reply # 167307 26-Sep-2008 11:37
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adamj: The flip side of this: My understanding is, and correct me if I am wrong, but Dynamic IP's really came from the days of dialup where the ISP didnt need to have an IP address for every customer because the vast majority of customers only dialup on demand, so you might only have 10% or 20% of your users connected at any one time, so why shell out for more IP's than you need.
The vast majority of Broadband customers however are always online, and so the ISP just about needs enough IP's for every customer - so why not give customers a Static IP if they ask for one?


The problem in this case is that, just like the oil in middle east, IPs are running out. The new standard, IPv6, has not reached widespred use yet, so we're stuck with a limited amount of IPv4 addresses to distribute between everyone who is online. Hence why providers try to juggle IPs around between users.




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  Reply # 167338 26-Sep-2008 13:30
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magu:
The problem in this case is that, just like the oil in middle east....


so "they" say Foot in mouth

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  Reply # 167400 26-Sep-2008 16:18
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Thanks for the tip of turning off the router. I'm with Orcon and one forum that I use, strangely I can post but when I do, they ban my IP address.  I think it's because I criticised the owner for publishing online the email addresses of trolls that joined up.  Anyway, when I post, I can't go back using that IP address, I'm running out of places to read the forum.  Public library, university and home are all blocked.  I thought about using TOR but it fails to work properly on my PC. 

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  Reply # 167973 30-Sep-2008 12:48

Ive always thought orcon was assigning dynamic ips with unlimited lease times. Mine never changes even if i power off the router.

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