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  Reply # 176644 7-Nov-2008 14:41
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Kilack:

Hi,

I completely agree and perhaps you didn't  read my post carefully or took it the wrong way... because I wasn't complaining about orcon at all and don't even have a problem with its broadband (i do with its caller id though).  All I was saying was that if the law says one thing, then it doesn't matter what an ISP puts on a page.  I never said they were breaking the law at all, I said if that act applies ( i have no idea if it does).  I haven't over simplified anything.   As I said you cannot contract out of a law in NZ.



You're right, and before I understood DSL I agreed- if you can't provide the service to it's full benefits you shouldn't offer it.

DSL however, does not work like that.

If the FTA was uphelp in every case relating to DSL- there would be no DSL!

For that reason, it's a service that ISP's offer as being the best they can manage to provide.

This means that if it fails to meet your expectations, let them know, and they will get to work fixing it.

@ all of you (except goodie):

At the end of the day, it's not essential, and if you don't like the fact that it can't be guaranteed, go offline or get a more expensive option.

I'm sick of hearing of people who want 1Gbps connections 24/7 at $50 a month so they can leech illegal pirated stuff.

There is a guaranteed service out there people- PAY FOR IT! Or shut your mouths and accept that DSL is a poor man's fast internet!

PS: my international traffic is still awesome, 4mbps to LA, so call your ISP and report it.

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  Reply # 176700 7-Nov-2008 18:30
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I'm sick of hearing of people who want 1Gbps connections 24/7 at $50 a month so they can leech illegal pirated stuff.


bOrg stop being an arse to people if you don't like what your reading then leave and don't read it
as for the 1Gbps connections 24/7 for $50 bucks thats not what i expect all i ever wanted was as fast as my line could go and its not so shut up not everyone in NZ has the luxury of being on an llu connection you know and all we really want is what were paying for and as it stands the majority of us are not getting it I'd be bloody happy with a consistent 3.5Mbps



but this isnt evan a quarter of what my sync speed is and look at that ping damn where did it go to before it got there

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  Reply # 176705 7-Nov-2008 18:55
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Athlonite: I'm sick of hearing of people who want 1Gbps connections 24/7 at $50 a month so they can leech illegal pirated stuff.





bOrg stop being an arse to people if you don't like what your reading then leave and don't read it

as for the 1Gbps connections 24/7 for $50 bucks thats not what i expect all i ever wanted was as fast as my line could go and its not so shut up not everyone in NZ has the luxury of being on an llu connection you know and all we really want is what were paying for and as it stands the majority of us are not getting it I'd be bloody happy with a consistent 3.5Mbps







but this isnt evan a quarter of what my sync speed is and look at that ping damn where did it go to before it got there






Are you sure you're not torrenting or something?

It does look like you're having some kinda problem there, I guess it's a one off fault because my link (as you can see) is fine, and I have two flatties playing WoW right now while doing this test.

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  Reply # 176730 7-Nov-2008 21:04
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b0rg:





Are you sure you're not torrenting or something?

It does look like you're having some kinda problem there, I guess it's a one off fault because my link (as you can see) is fine, and I have two flatties playing WoW right now while doing this test.


Nope not an one off issue. No downloads, no flatmates, just me on the net. Speed comes right in the early morning.







Several months back i use to get international speeds faster than the test to Auckland, sadly not anymore :(

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  Reply # 176736 7-Nov-2008 21:54
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lol am i torrenting well certainly not while trying to use the net i switch em on when i go to bed and turn em off when i get up
hmm seems it was a temporary prob pings now 166ms


dunno whats going on with orcon one day things are great next its crap then good then bad


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  Reply # 176738 7-Nov-2008 22:25
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There appear to be a number of issues at work here, that are being confused for one/other issues.

It is rathher clear from reading this, and my own experiance (lol, limited local speeds, one night only! routing issue somewhere, i bet you >.>), that there are parts of the network that are problematic, and others that run fine.

I think if we are going to continue this thread sensably, you should at least post where you are geologically, ADSL1/2+/telecom leased line/ect, and if they can, under what conditions the error happens.

For example it is in my experiance that speeds will sometimes be fine untill you (accidently for the most part) run a torrent for 5 minutes, and then turn it off (or sometimes download some amount), after which point they will slow down drasticly for the rest of the night.

Anyone else experiance anything like this? Or does anyone want to help me test this idea?

@ all of you (except goodie):


Epic line is epic. ^^

bOrg stop being an arse to people if you don't like what your reading then leave and don't read it

as for the 1Gbps connections 24/7 for $50 bucks thats not what i expect
all i ever wanted was as fast as my line could go and its not so shut
up not everyone in NZ has the luxury of being on an llu connection you
know and all we really want is what were paying for and as it stands
the majority of us are not getting it I'd be bloody happy with a
consistent 3.5Mbps


What you are asking for is like ISP's asking for users to use all their
bandwith at the same steady speed for the whole billing month.

(if you can't get that, read: Not going to happen)

Its the same as a library I guess... there are only so many of each
book. And they are not going to order one for each user of the library.
So you'll just have to share. ^^.

Actually, I rather like that analogy.

Athlonite: lol am i torrenting well certainly not while trying
to use the net i switch em on when i go to bed and turn em off when i
get up

hmm seems it was a temporary prob pings now 166ms



dunno whats going on with orcon one day things are great next its crap then good then bad



Interesting... again, im gonna go with library analogy, someone stopped using so much bandwith, and you got some.



Not bad considering this is probably peak time.

TL;DR; localised problems are localised, state some other info to help, who knows maybe 2 people experiancing the same issue are in the same area?

-Goodie

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  Reply # 176909 9-Nov-2008 11:37
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This is my test, @ 11:40 sunday morning, im guessing there would be fairly heavy load at the moment but not peak im also uploading something to work so my upload isnt as fast as it could be. Not bad I recon, was getting no wear near that on xnet




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  Reply # 179327 22-Nov-2008 01:49
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and yet ten days on and we still get this sort of thing



seems trafic to london is now going via purgatory LOL (look at the ping)

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  Reply # 179437 22-Nov-2008 16:17
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Athlonite: and yet ten days on and we still get this sort of thing







seems trafic to london is now going via purgatory LOL (look at the ping)





https://www.speedtest.net/result/360132574.png

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  Reply # 179445 22-Nov-2008 16:46
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  Reply # 179457 22-Nov-2008 17:34
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Just as a matter of interest.  How are you guys copying the results to this thread??

 





Regards,

Old3eyes


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  Reply # 179530 23-Nov-2008 01:32
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Click on the photo of a tree right abover where you type, enter the link there.


@ the rest: I'm getting the impression this entire thread is one big whinge fest based on two or three faulty connections.
There are far more good results being posted than bad ones, which tells me this thread is a load of rubbish and should be closed.

Like I keep saying, nobody here is going to fix your shix so stop bixing and call your ISP to get it fixed or investigated.

The thread was about international speeds which as you can see below, are fine.
If you have national traffic issues, that's probably not your ISP, your line is probably faulty.
Do the tests they require, leet them investigate, if you don't get a reply in a few days call back for an update, and again a few days later.

These things take time, give them patience but keep at them and they will get there- remember, there's a reason we're with Orcon. They keep winning the TUANZ awards! And if you don't like them, there's a simple way to deal with it- transfer away and suffer with one of the others!



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  Reply # 179589 23-Nov-2008 11:46
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b0rg: Click on the photo of a tree right abover where you type, enter the link there.


@ the rest: I'm getting the impression this entire thread is one big whinge fest based on two or three faulty connections.
There are far more good results being posted than bad ones, which tells me this thread is a load of rubbish and should be closed.

Like I keep saying, nobody here is going to fix your shix so stop bixing and call your ISP to get it fixed or investigated.

The thread was about international speeds which as you can see below, are fine.
If you have national traffic issues, that's probably not your ISP, your line is probably faulty.
Do the tests they require, leet them investigate, if you don't get a reply in a few days call back for an update, and again a few days later.

These things take time, give them patience but keep at them and they will get there- remember, there's a reason we're with Orcon. They keep winning the TUANZ awards! And if you don't like them, there's a simple way to deal with it- transfer away and suffer with one of the others!




There was an international problem and they acknowledged that.. btw ping to london and tell me it's still ok :)

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  Reply # 179615 23-Nov-2008 13:07
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One thing you should remember that the speed test also depends on the speed of the host your testing against.

London does give me 6megabits but 600ms ping time BUT maidenhead a few miles away from london gives me a ping of 280ms





So while speed tests are usually a good indication there not always accurate.






I think this thread should be locked, theres no real problems at the moment. any new problems should be in a new thread perhaps

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  Reply # 179800 24-Nov-2008 09:29
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Athlonite: and yet ten days on and we still get this sort of thing







seems trafic to london is now going via purgatory LOL (look at the ping)





You're based in Nelson rigjht? Its probably the Telecom UBS connection you have and the Telecom backhaul back to Orcon thats at fault.

Everyone else seems to be having great speeds.

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