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Topic # 30376 5-Feb-2009 22:02
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hey just a quick question i have just changed over to Orcon and have found that the connection drop out is terrible. I am trying to torrent open office (freeware) and aloth although it has over 1000 seeders the connection is dropping out at least every 15 seconds. at the same time I am downloading the windows 7 beta off the microsoft website but that shouldnt make any difference. the internet led on the router keeps going red and i cannot even load web pages. (it took over 5 refreshes to get to this one).

any help would be great.

ah and im in glenfield north, auckland

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  Reply # 194376 5-Feb-2009 22:07
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No.. they dont,

what sort of router do you have? are you on Orcon LLU + ?



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  Reply # 194378 5-Feb-2009 22:12
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hmm seams abit random i stopped the download from microsoft and kept the torrents going and now the nets stoped dropping out.

um im running a linksys wag200g modem/router. supports adsl 2+ unless im mistaken and yes i do beleave im on the new networks

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 194379 5-Feb-2009 22:15
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within 5seconds of me starting the download from microsoft again the net dropped out and took 30secs to start up again after i stopped it.

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  Reply # 194383 5-Feb-2009 22:27
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yea WAG200, its the only Linksys router ive found so far that doesnt work properly on some Orcon LLU connections (including mine)

Mine was fine for the first couple months, then would drop out, usually as soon as i max out the speed

( do a speed test, did it every time for me )

I tried 3 WAG200s (ive sold alot of them) on my connection, same problem, all of the sudden

I tried various firmwares on them but didnt solve the issue.

Have tried other Linksys, DLINK and Dynalink routers on my connection and they have been fine, not really sure whats up with the WAG200, ive installed dozens of them in the past and have always been reliable, just not on Orcon LLU.



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  Reply # 194384 5-Feb-2009 22:32
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hmm doesnt seam to do it when i do a speed test i did a few and no problems

[URL=https://www.speedtest.net][IMG]https://www.speedtest.net/result/404755151.png[/IMG][/URL]


[URL=https://www.speedtest.net][IMG]https://www.speedtest.net/result/404755385.png[/IMG][/URL]

can you sergest any other good modem router to use.

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  Reply # 194405 6-Feb-2009 00:43
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hellhound: hey just a quick question i have just changed over to Orcon and have found that the connection drop out is terrible. I am trying to torrent smallville from in the states as its not released over here yet and although it has over 12000 seeders the connection is dropping out at least every 15 seconds. at the same time I am downloading the windows 7 beta off the microsoft website but that shouldnt make any difference. the internet led on the router keeps going red and i cannot even load web pages. (it took over 5 refreshes to get to this one).

any help would be great.

ah and im in glenfield north, auckland


First thing : I wouldn't admit or directly state that you were to torrenting copyrighted content from the states. For one things theres Section 92a which means if they prove that you have been downloading copyrighted content you haven't paid for (or have a right to IE podcasts)  3 times you can have your internet cut and you banned from getting it. The other thing is discussions of such things is specifically forbidden by the rules of this forum.

As for your connection I can recommend a Dynalink 1025w.   But first : Would you be able to post the stats of  your ADSL modem router ? Things like the Signal to Noise ration , Sync rate , attentuation , if interleaving is on or off , modulation method etc  . There should be a page on your modem router that gives you this information.

The light going red means it's disconnected from the exchange.

Oh and

supports adsl 2+ unless im mistaken and yes i do beleave im on the new networks


Might want to confirm that. Confirm what settings your modem should have.





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  Reply # 194425 6-Feb-2009 08:55
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i think this is what you are after:

DSL Connection     Help...
   
DSL Status: Connected
DSL Modulation Mode: MultiMode
DSL Path Mode: Interleaved
Downstream Rate: 16878 kbps
Upstream Rate: 1020 kbps
Downstream Margin: 6 db
Upstream Margin: 12 db
Downstream Line Attenuation: 22 db
Upstream Line Attenuation: 3.5 db
Downstream Transmit Power: 11 db
Upstream Transmit Power: 23 db

also the modem does support adsl2+ and i am on Orcon LLU + network

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  Reply # 194428 6-Feb-2009 09:26
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When I first read the thread title, I thought you were asking if Orcon is going to kick you for donwloading games/movies/music etc.

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  Reply # 194429 6-Feb-2009 09:27
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First thing : I wouldn't admit or directly state that you were to torrenting copyrighted content from the states. For one things theres Section 92a which means if they prove that you have been downloading copyrighted content you haven't paid for (or have a right to IE podcasts)? 3 times you can have your internet cut and you banned from getting it.


hellhound: I am trying to torrent open office (freeware)



He is not breaking anylaw torrenting open office

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  Reply # 194443 6-Feb-2009 11:02
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The answer to your question is no, as far as I know and have experienced Orcon do not do this with Torrents.

Why bother Torrenting it ??
Just download it from here.

http://www.openoffice.org.nz/

I downloaded Windows 7 Beta when it first came out it only took 33 minutes to download on my Orcon + connection.

I live in Glenfield also and have a slightly slower connection than you but it only disconnects occasionally.
When I first started on Orcon + I had a lot of disconnects and found that the problem was in the phone connections in my house. 



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  Reply # 194510 6-Feb-2009 18:35
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k well ive sorted out that orcon doesnt do anything about torrenting and that the fault seams to lye with the modem i have a wag200w and from the look of the linksys forums and it seams alot of people have this problem when trying to download large files in one go and there doesnt seam to be any fix.

can someone recommend a better modem/router that supports adsl 2+ that doesnt cut out lol.

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  Reply # 194618 7-Feb-2009 12:29
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It's the combination of two factors..

A lot of cheap modems/routers have average firmware and can't handle the number of connections that torrenting produces and of course by default torrent clients are configured to use a riduclous number of tcp/ip connections.

Try reducing the number of connections that bit torrent is allowed to use in your torrent clients config.

eg: utorrent config screen.



If you can't get good results by reducing the number of connections then if you just want something simple all in one that works I suggest the:

Dynalink RTA 1025W
http://www.dynalink.co.nz/cms/index.php?page=rta1025w

Now... if you want to get your geek on....

I'm using a Dynalink RTA1320 ADSL2+ modem + a Linksys WRT54GL (custom firmware), very flexible and reliable setup.  By seperating the router/wireless/switch from the modem you can change the modem later on for example when Telecom rolls our VDSL.

Ben wrote some good blog posts about it last year:
http://www.ben.geek.nz/adsl-routing-solution-in-detail/
http://www.ben.geek.nz/linksys-wrt54gl-custom-firmware-is-essential/



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  Reply # 194626 7-Feb-2009 12:53
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the Linksys WAG160N gave the best dsl connection speed of the various routers i tested on Orcon LLU, it connects almost 1mbit faster Down than the WAG200 on my LLU, had half a megabit faster than DLINK 504s etc

However, the wireless in the WAG160N is flakey compared to every other linksys wifi router i have used,  flakey enough that i have disabled it entirely. Is rock solid on the DSL stability side tho.


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  Reply # 194628 7-Feb-2009 12:57
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I had a DrayTek and it dropped the ADSL quite a lot on Orcon LLU.

I have the Orcon HomeHub now and it is rock solid ADSL, wifi, LAN, . . . and only $5 per month. When Orcon do fancy new stuff it is ready and in the mean time it is going to be 2 years + before my $5/month ($60/year) adds up to the value of an equivalent modem.

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  Reply # 194644 7-Feb-2009 14:09
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Oh the other hand if you decide to change ISP (for whatever reason) you paid $60 per year in rental and now have nothing

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