I do agree it's an ISP issue -- an Orcon issue in this case that affects Orcon customers on full/128k plans. I suspect the 128k upload throttles the download speed due to TCP ACK issues.
KiwiSurfer: That's normal for an Orcon connection on a Telecom cabinet. I'm on a Telecom cabinet attached to the Ponsonby Exchange here and get only 5mbits throughput despite a line speed of 14mbits to the cabinet. Would transfer to Telecom except flatmate prefers Orcon due to their no contracts policy. :(
KiwiSurfer: Sure, these are off-peak results from just now -- seems to be better than usual I should add.
Speedtest.net Auckland WXC -- 6.22/0.14
Speedtest.net Wellington Citylink -- 7.37/0.14
Speedtest.net Christchurch Snap -- 9.13/0.14
Speedtest.net Napier Airnet -- 4.63/0.13
Vodafone NZ -- 6.34/0.13
Xnet -- 6.08/0.13
Comsumer Speed Test -- 7.01/0.14
Orcon Modem details:-
Downstream rate: 12330 kbps
Upstream rate: 164 kbps
Line mode: ADSL2+
Maximum line rate: 14372 kbps (downstream) / 997 kbps (upstream)
Noise margin: 15.2 dB (downstream) / 40.6 dB (upstream)
Line attenuation: 8.8 dB (downstream) / 2.8 dB (upstream)
Output power: 18.6 dBm (downstream) / 11.7 dBm (upstream)
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cyril7: Hi KraserK dont know what you mean, Kiwisurfer stated that he was connected to a cabinet on a Telecom wholesale connection (see his earlier post) so issues relating to mid span injection problems dont apply, his 128k upload however does.
Orcon do offer full/full plans also on Telecom Wholesale.
richms: You can easily hit line speed downstream on a 128k up if you are using UDP such as streaming video.
If you are going to limit yourself to http based speed tests, then yeah, you will be hard pressed to see reliably reproducable figures much over 5-6 without doing stupid things to your tcp/ip settings.
At prices which are more expensive than almost every other ISP on the market for the same speed/data. And that still doesn't explain why Orcon only offers full/full on Orcon+ but offers the option between poor/good performance on Telecom Wholesale. Surely if Orcon wants their customers to have the best experience they would phase out 128k upload for all.
For the non + plans provided over Telecom wholesale equipment Orcon has to pay more to Telecom wholesale for the FS/FS wholesale service than FS/128kbit service.
The reality is all ISP's still offering 128kbit end up pricing it $10-20 cheaper than FS up.
If you want FS/FS and you are not happy with Orcon's pricing for that on non + then yes you should look at cheaper alternatives.
Youtuve HD only requires about 1Mbit/s to not buffer, so 128kbit upload limiting your download to ~5Mbit wouldn't have an affect on that.
The reality is residential internet is a shared service, best effort no gaurantee of performance or reliability. Hence you may not be able to get 1Mbit/s sustained to overseas servers in peak time. That's life... Consumers can afford real dedicated bandwidth as it runs in the hundreds an thousands per month.
Besides didn't Orcon implement a caching solution that has largely resolved youtube performance issues?