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  Reply # 461362 21-Apr-2011 15:53

Isn't it odd that the introduced interference is not compensated in some way... analogies fails all the time, but this situation is rather similar to opening a factory spewing polluted water downstream, notification before hand doesn't justify the action?

but anyway, investment is being made, and I suppose that's good enough for regulators. 

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  Reply # 461483 21-Apr-2011 23:21
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After discovering I am on the New DNS. As the modem automatically detect the new DNS. and I decided to follow pohutukawa's post about the DNS post with 60.x.x.x

hmmm at the present time, 11:20pm running on the youtube. I haven't have any problem at all. No buffering at all.

I don't know whether DNS affect youtube at all. but I tell ya, it is much better than before

Jacky

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 461485 21-Apr-2011 23:25
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alliao: Isn't it odd that the introduced interference is not compensated in some way... analogies fails all the time, but this situation is rather similar to opening a factory spewing polluted water downstream, notification before hand doesn't justify the action?


Of course not, Orcon are _forced_ to buy a link to you via telecoms wholesale gear. They can't afford to compensate you, nor should they.


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  Reply # 461511 22-Apr-2011 07:28
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Orcon are _forced_ to buy a link to you via telecoms wholesale gear. They can't afford to compensate you, nor should they.



So what would enable Orcon and others to provide a guaranteed service, for it seems that Telecom are hiding behind a "best-effort-wholesale" veil?

How about requiring that wholesale services have a guaranteed service element? That should be the price a market-moving player pays for their dominant position.

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  Reply # 461628 22-Apr-2011 16:45
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pohutukawa:
Orcon are _forced_ to buy a link to you via telecoms wholesale gear. They can't afford to compensate you, nor should they.



So what would enable Orcon and others to provide a guaranteed service, for it seems that Telecom are hiding behind a "best-effort-wholesale" veil?

How about requiring that wholesale services have a guaranteed service element? That should be the price a market-moving player pays for their dominant position.


The only way Orcon could offer a guaranteed service like that, they'd have to have DSLAMs in all the cabinets/exchanges that telecom put in, that's not really economically feasible.

There IS a guaranteed service element, sort of. On telecom wholesale, you can get ~0-128kbit on the telecom->ISP handover link :P


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  Reply # 461631 22-Apr-2011 16:53
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kyhwana2:
pohutukawa:
Orcon are _forced_ to buy a link to you via telecoms wholesale gear. They can't afford to compensate you, nor should they.



So what would enable Orcon and others to provide a guaranteed service, for it seems that Telecom are hiding behind a "best-effort-wholesale" veil?

How about requiring that wholesale services have a guaranteed service element? That should be the price a market-moving player pays for their dominant position.


The only way Orcon could offer a guaranteed service like that, they'd have to have DSLAMs in all the cabinets/exchanges that telecom put in, that's not really economically feasible.

There IS a guaranteed service element, sort of. On telecom wholesale, you can get ~0-128kbit on the telecom->ISP handover link :P



Yep, so regulate the guaranteed service on the handover link.

Telecom would figure it out if they had to.

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  Reply # 461634 22-Apr-2011 17:10
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jackyleunght2002: After discovering I am on the New DNS. As the modem automatically detect the new DNS. and I decided to follow pohutukawa's post about the DNS post with 60.x.x.x


So the 60.234.x.x was clearly better than the 121.98.0.x dns servers?

I'm not sure dns is the main problem... I did some tests last night and the dns response seemed o.k. I'm using wget to eliminate any browser issues and also because wget records the start and end times - not just the download speed. You can see in this example there were several timeouts and retries before the index file was downloaded.

C:\Temp>wget https://www.speedtest.net
--2011-04-21 21:59:07--  https://www.speedtest.net/
Resolving www.speedtest.net... 74.209.160.12
Connecting to www.speedtest.net|74.209.160.12|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... No data received.
Retrying.

--2011-04-21 22:02:41--  (try: 2)  https://www.speedtest.net/
Connecting to www.speedtest.net|74.209.160.12|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... No data received.
Retrying.

--2011-04-21 22:02:50--  (try: 3)  https://www.speedtest.net/
Connecting to www.speedtest.net|74.209.160.12|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: unspecified [text/html]
Saving to: `index.html'

    [                                                        ] 13,124      2.42K/s   in 5.3s

2011-04-21 22:02:56 (2.42 KB/s) - `index.html' saved [13124]


Note: you can get wget.exe for windows here: http://users.ugent.be/~bpuype/wget/
Most Linux distributions will already have it.


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  Reply # 461635 22-Apr-2011 17:13
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alexx: I'm note sure dns is the main problem...


I suspect you're right. I'm not seeing any difference with the "new" DNS servers.

It's latency and/or bandwidth, or congestion somewhere upstream of Orcon.

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  Reply # 462794 26-Apr-2011 22:14
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We've been having the same problems since the 16th with international traffic and peak times.
On Orcon@Home Bronze (Max/Max).
Also does the second "Max" mean that we have max up?
We are currently sitting on 15Mb down 600Kb up.

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  Reply # 462802 26-Apr-2011 22:32
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edaw: We've been having the same problems since the 16th with international traffic and peak times。


Me too.

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  Reply # 462822 26-Apr-2011 23:54
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can someone check if they can access this website on orcon?www.warez-bb.org ?

I was unable to to access it today, but now i cant, it just times out.?

i can access it on my 3g ipad though

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  Reply # 462828 27-Apr-2011 00:19
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xkawsx: can someone check if they can access this website on orcon?www.warez-bb.org ?

I was unable to to access it today, but now i cant, it just times out.?

i can access it on my 3g ipad though


Its fine on my orcon connection. If you have problems with international only, search for "NZ VPN".

I am using a wellington based VPN connection and it gets me through the peak period when orcon is crap. 

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  Reply # 462845 27-Apr-2011 07:25
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jjnz1:
xkawsx: can someone check if they can access this website on orcon?www.warez-bb.org ?

I was unable to to access it today, but now i cant, it just times out.?

i can access it on my 3g ipad though


Its fine on my orcon connection. If you have problems with international only, search for "NZ VPN".

I am using a wellington based VPN connection and it gets me through the peak period when orcon is crap.?


A quick Google search throws up the following - would you recommend this provider?


"VPN ServiceManaged VPN's Designed and Built to Your Requirements. Call Us Today!
www.orcon.net.nz/VPN-Solutions"

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  Reply # 462998 27-Apr-2011 13:13
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xkawsx: can someone check if they can access this website


If I was you I would not be advertising the fact that you access sites that promote illegal downloads/copyright infringement on public forums like GeekZone.



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  Reply # 463866 29-Apr-2011 22:52
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According to orcon network status the connection with no data has been fixed and I am happy to confirm that all pages national and international load happily at peak time today and yesterday for me at very high speeds.

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