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  Reply # 496231 21-Jul-2011 13:04
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Orcon chief executive Scott Bartlett said the Genius was more user friendly than Skype. He said the pricing was highly competitive.


I'm sorry, but 19c/min vs 3c/min on skype for national calls is NOT competitive.

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  Reply # 496232 21-Jul-2011 13:04
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The new plans are definitely better value (for me at least) when it comes to data. But the fixed contract makes me nervous. I hate getting locked in. I think I will wait a month to see how people go first.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 496235 21-Jul-2011 13:06
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umm there is a no contract option there... Just pay a little more for the privilege

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  Reply # 496236 21-Jul-2011 13:06
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garvani:
quentinreade: The address checker is fixed.
Thanks.


You sure? Is this a nationwide thing or purely regions that have orcon equipment in there exchanges? Because ive put in 5 addresses all across blenheim and not one of them is available.



We only cover 87% of the country. What we look for when prequaling for Genius is the following.

EUBA or LLU capable?
Does Orcon have the ability to provide a local number?

If those are Yes, then we are good to go!

Blenheim is an area we can't cover yet, as we can't provide a local number there, but Equipment is on the way to Nelson (I belive thats the major LICA for Blenheim) and should be up and working next month. You should be able to sign up then.




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  Reply # 496239 21-Jul-2011 13:06
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Blenheim isn't Genius capable at this stage.
We don't have the necessary voice interconnect at the moment.
Sorry about that.

[edit: sounddude beat me to the punch]




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  Reply # 496243 21-Jul-2011 13:11
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garvani: umm there is a no contract option there... Just pay a little more for the privilege


A little more? A $100 "set up" and then an extra $10 a month for "rental". So over a year thats an extra $220. Plus if you rent like me then you need to pay again when you move house 

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  Reply # 496246 21-Jul-2011 13:14
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Thank you sounddude and quentinreade.. will definitely look into it when your in blenheim

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  Reply # 496249 21-Jul-2011 13:21
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garvani: Thank you sounddude and quentinreade.. will definitely look into it when your in blenheim


Looks like Blenheim isn't going to be covered by the Nelson equipment sorry :(

So not sure when we will be able to supprt Genius in Blenheim.

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  Reply # 496252 21-Jul-2011 13:27
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@Orcon

You should really have a no connection fee promotion, would get a lot more people to try it out at least. Id imagine it would work out better business wise as well.

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  Reply # 496257 21-Jul-2011 13:37
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Sounddude:
garvani:
quentinreade: The address checker is fixed.
Thanks.


You sure? Is this a nationwide thing or purely regions that have orcon equipment in there exchanges? Because ive put in 5 addresses all across blenheim and not one of them is available.



We only cover 87% of the country. What we look for when prequaling for Genius is the following.

EUBA or LLU capable?
Does Orcon have the ability to provide a local number?

If those are Yes, then we are good to go!

Blenheim is an area we can't cover yet, as we can't provide a local number there, but Equipment is on the way to Nelson (I belive thats the major LICA for Blenheim) and should be up and working next month. You should be able to sign up then.





but those criteria don't equate to 87% of the country, do they?

I beieve EUBA only covers 80% (and that 80% would fully overlap Orcon's LLU footprint)

Furthermore, the RBI covers 16% (and obviously you can't sell the genius to people covered by RBI since they can't get broadband now)


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  Reply # 496262 21-Jul-2011 13:48
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I phoned Orcon to check for certain if the genius plan was available in Timaru. I was told, not yet, it covers 84% of the country, they hope to cover Timaru in the future. Sounds like only the main centers benifit at the moment.

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  Reply # 496265 21-Jul-2011 13:56
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Holy crap at the calling costs?!?!?! Xnet is like 1/4 the price for landline national and half for mobile over their VOIP product....





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  Reply # 496266 21-Jul-2011 13:57
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Snackos:
garvani: umm there is a no contract option there... Just pay a little more for the privilege


A little more? A $100 "set up" and then an extra $10 a month for "rental". So over a year thats an extra $220. Plus if you rent like me then you need to pay again when you move house 


Yes...that's just on $20 extra per month for the no contract option. That takes the gloss of it for me.

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  Reply # 496301 21-Jul-2011 15:28
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Claims of being available to 83% of the country seem a little overreaching.
For example - in the South Island it is only available in CHCH & Dunedin. That is a whole lot of the rest of the South Island (Nelson, Blenheim, Timaru, Queenstown, Invercargill - all metro areas) where it is not available.

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  Reply # 496462 21-Jul-2011 22:19
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Does anyone have a record of what the old plans were?

I was wanting to compare with what I had (Orcon Home Silver+) but in the past when I wanted to remember what was in my plan I looked at the Orcon site, but can't find the old ones.

Second question - what about phone extensions with this genius option - if I want a phone upstairs, how does that work?

Given that in my experience WiFi doesn't travel through steel re-enforced concrete floors very well - there is some signal most of the time, but not reliable enough - so while it's nice that it's a "super-styley modem with a really strong Wi-Fi signal that lets you hook up to the internet just about anywhere round the house", what about those areas outside of "just about anywhere round the house"?

Wired IP phone option?
If so, what sort should I get?


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