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  Reply # 511356 24-Aug-2011 16:34
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miamiheatfan: After we've downloaded the game. How do we make sure that when playing the game it plays off the Orcon server and is unmetered ?


It is pretty easy all the Orcon servers will have Orcon in the name. Here is a full list: http://games.orcon.net.nz/?page=serverbrowser

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  Reply # 511444 24-Aug-2011 19:55
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Just out of interest - how far along is the content server from downloading all of the catalogue? Lots of games on my list still wont download from orcon yet.

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  Reply # 511470 24-Aug-2011 20:45
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It has about 2.5TB out of 6TB.
So quite away. 

It's pretty much running as fast as it can, Valve have some limitations when it comes to populating new content servers. 

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  Reply # 511594 25-Aug-2011 08:32
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Ive been populating my games list quite happily @1.6MB/s :)

Pity my computer is too slow to run most of the games at a good framerate :-p




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  Reply # 512667 26-Aug-2011 19:40
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xpd: Ive been populating my games list quite happily @1.6MB/s :)

Pity my computer is too slow to run most of the games at a good framerate :-p

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  Reply # 512674 26-Aug-2011 19:47
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I thought I was getting zero rated traffic due to the banner but then a nice 5 gig value popped up in my daily usage this morning! I guess I got 2/3 games free. It might be best to wait till the server is fully populated before downloading.

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  Reply # 512675 26-Aug-2011 19:47
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stupid it's not letting me comment or quote with a comment

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  Reply # 512743 26-Aug-2011 22:58
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Told my boys that Steam was free now and they have been happily updating games and downloading. My usage meter shows only 19 megs of free usage. Damn.

Have installed Steamwatch but have no idea what IP's we need to put in for Orcon's servers.

This is one case of Orcon advertising a product without a) resources to support it and b) instructions on how to get the benefit that it advertises. "Orcon offers free Steam" should not come with obscure instructions on how to get it. The end user does not need to understand how the Steam content servers work - it just wants zero rated traffic - as advertised.

The other case is the Genius Product. That's balls up after balls up.

Both are breaches of the Consumer Guarantees Act and the Fair Trading Act. The Commerce Commission and any one of the two consumer tv programs may be interested?

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  Reply # 512746 26-Aug-2011 23:14
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Very odd that they advertised it before making sure their content server had all the games. They must have known it was going to catch a lot of people out.

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  Reply # 512764 27-Aug-2011 08:17
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Splatty: Told my boys that Steam was free now and they have been happily updating games and downloading. My usage meter shows only 19 megs of free usage. Damn.

Have installed Steamwatch but have no idea what IP's we need to put in for Orcon's servers.

This is one case of Orcon advertising a product without a) resources to support it and b) instructions on how to get the benefit that it advertises. "Orcon offers free Steam" should not come with obscure instructions on how to get it. The end user does not need to understand how the Steam content servers work - it just wants zero rated traffic - as advertised.

The other case is the Genius Product. That's balls up after balls up.

Both are breaches of the Consumer Guarantees Act and the Fair Trading Act. The Commerce Commission and any one of the two consumer tv programs may be interested?


It's a fair comment. I tried those steam filtering programs but I guess I configured them wrong and I was not able to download anything from anywhere for a while. It seems that actually getting onto the Orcon steam servers to download is extremely haphazard and not too easy for the average end user. 

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  Reply # 512773 27-Aug-2011 08:50
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All my Steam data has been zero-rated however it is the more popular products (and older) such as Counterstrike, Left 4 Dead 2 etc.

As for the "breach" of consumer law blah blah, they do state this :

"Important note: data from the Orcon Steam Content Server will be unmetered for Orcon customers. However, if you download from another Steam server, this usage will be charged. To check that you are downloading from the Orcon server click ?play? on the game you are downloading and check that the Orcon Games banner is displayed."

Orcon have clearly stated here and in their own forum that not all games are available yet, theres 6TB of data to come through and if Valve decide to limit what games or even speed the games come through to Orcon at, is not Orcons fault.

Patience is required - the wait will be worth it.




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  Reply # 512777 27-Aug-2011 09:06
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Hi XPD, I'm not going to go into debate on this forum about legal issues but will say that to the "average" person, who is the target of the recent push to get customers (Genius is smart and easy, just plug it and away you go etc), the headline advertising may be seen as misleading, which is in breach of section 6.1 of the Fair Trading Act. Similar to getting someone into a store for a special offer but there are conditions attached to the purchase.

Whilst Orcon quantify that one should check that the "Orcon Games Banner" is displayed it does not give any instruction on how you check this.

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  Reply # 512793 27-Aug-2011 10:06
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Athlonite: stupid it's not letting me comment or quote with a comment


Perhaps you are using Opera 11.5? So change to another browser or go to your profile and disable the rich text editor option.

There's a fix. Whining is not a fix. 




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  Reply # 512795 27-Aug-2011 10:07
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Snackos: Very odd that they advertised it before making sure their content server had all the games. They must have known it was going to catch a lot of people out.


That's an interesting comment. TelstraClear is also making its own Steam content server available, but they have been very careful to not make it accessible until they have all content loaded.

 




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  Reply # 512798 27-Aug-2011 10:15
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freitasm: 
That's an interesting comment. TelstraClear is also making its own Steam content server available, but they have been very careful to not make it accessible until they have all content loaded.

 


Nope, theirs is up too, and from what I understand also not full.
http://store.steampowered.com/stats/content/

It's going to take over a month to fully populate the >6TB required for a full catalog.  It automagically starts serving what content it has.  I guess we could tell Valve to completely filter it until it's finished, but then imagine the fallout from people wanting it *right now*.

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