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Topic # 89586 5-Sep-2011 20:22
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I have a few domains registered with iServe...

When I go to renew a domain there's a screen popup (https://domains.hosting.orcon.net.nz/domainprices.php) saying the price is $36.8/yr. But when I click the renew button the price comes as $37/yr.

I've noticed this a couple of months ago and pointed out to @Orcon on Twitter, but nothing has changed.





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  Reply # 517113 5-Sep-2011 20:31
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$32 +GST is the price listed on their website



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  Reply # 517116 5-Sep-2011 20:35
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So there are three places with two different prices then. $0.20 is not much, but after you start paying for a few domains...

 




 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 517117 5-Sep-2011 20:38
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Sorry I don't mean to nitpick - but that link https://domains.hosting.orcon.net.nz/domainprices.php actually shows $36.8/yr? - its what you probably meant to put - but was a typo.

Also - I see $32+GST (15%) which equals $36.80, not $37.00 so some bad rounding I'd assume.




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  Reply # 517121 5-Sep-2011 20:43
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NZCoderGuy: Sorry I don't mean to nitpick - but that link https://domains.hosting.orcon.net.nz/domainprices.php actually shows $36.8/yr? - its what you probably meant to put - but was a typo.

Also - I see $32+GST (15%) which equals $36.80, not $37.00 so some bad rounding I'd assume.


The $37 in the control panel would be incorrect, as $32 +gst is the one shown on the orcon website at http://www.orcon.net.nz/work/page/register_a_domain
So it should only be billing $36.80 .

20 cents may not seem that much but over many thousands of domains, it could mean a lot of money.

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  Reply # 517246 6-Sep-2011 03:07
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Either way that's way overpriced!

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Reply # 517435 6-Sep-2011 12:14
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Ragnor: Either way that's way overpriced!


You've obviously never bought a domain through Domainz... 

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  Reply # 517449 6-Sep-2011 12:38

Ragnor: Either way that's way overpriced!


Not really. Some of the cheap ones have additional fees such as charging per minute if you call them, and charging fees to renew an cancelled domain. Many I would doubt make a profit from selling domains,after looking at the wholesale pricing and after credit card fees and support costs are removed, and instead make their money from add on services like hosting.



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  Reply # 517861 7-Sep-2011 00:21
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Ive registered a few through Domains4less.co.nz, they are awesome, full control over the domain, even hosting my own nameserver ns1.mydomain.co.nz etc etc and it super cheap :)

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  Reply # 518115 7-Sep-2011 14:46
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robbyp:
Ragnor: Either way that's way overpriced!


Not really. Some of the cheap ones have additional fees such as charging per minute if you call them, and charging fees to renew an cancelled domain. Many I would doubt make a profit from selling domains,after looking at the wholesale pricing and after credit card fees and support costs are removed, and instead make their money from add on services like hosting.


Well that's a fair point I suppose, if you want to be able a call an 0800 number I guess you would be willing to pay more.

Domain registration is relatively easy and a commodity so it's not surprising it doesn't make much profit.

The wholesale rate is $15, marginal cost of communicating with SRS, dns records in their servers and an account in their online management system is not much.

I do have domains using domains4less, 1stdomains and metaname at the moment but have never phoned them or needed to use their online ticketing system.  

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  Reply # 518136 7-Sep-2011 15:30

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robbyp:
Ragnor: Either way that's way overpriced!


Not really. Some of the cheap ones have additional fees such as charging per minute if you call them, and charging fees to renew an cancelled domain. Many I would doubt make a profit from selling domains,after looking at the wholesale pricing and after credit card fees and support costs are removed, and instead make their money from add on services like hosting.


Well that's a fair point I suppose, if you want to be able a call an 0800 number I guess you would be willing to pay more.

Domain registration is relatively easy and a commodity so it's not surprising it doesn't make much profit.

The wholesale rate is $15, marginal cost of communicating with SRS, dns records in their servers and an account in their online management system is not much.

I do have domains using domains4less, 1stdomains and metaname at the moment but have never phoned them or needed to use their online ticketing system.  


For someone who is technically knowledgeable like us, then yes I agree, but there are people who do need support for things like changing nameservers, changing their contact details, setting up A records etc. There is also quite a lot of responsibility involved by the registrar, and security required, as well as staffing to manage it all. eg If the domain owner requests a UDAI code, it must be provided without delay to the domain registrant.  Some of the cheap ones in NZ are add on businesses to larger hosting companies, so they can probably afford to not make as much profit on their low cost domain services. Some are just resellers so their cost is higher than $15 per domain but they probably don't need to have the same staffing. However some are registrars, so do have the costs of managing such a system, and wages aren't cheap.

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