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naggyman

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#692332 27-Sep-2012 16:06

I have found that the only way to get anything good on the internet is using a proxy or pirating - both of which I don't really want to do.

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#692333 27-Sep-2012 16:12

DonGould:
KiwiNZ: I get most of my news online but there is a lot of folks in our community that don't have access to the internet and TV should cater for these folks with quality TV especially our national public stations.

Why don't folks in your community have access to the internet?!

Look around your city, not everyone can afford Computers and Internet plans etc. I live in an affluent area and I have neighbours who cannot afford the internet.

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#692339 27-Sep-2012 16:22

I agree with the comments about 'news' programs being too long.

In yee olde times we had National news (including sports) for about 30m then regional news.

The 1.5hr crapapallooza festivals we get now are just a pain in the *rse.

The weather alone is dragged out for sooooo long by the time they get to Auckland I am frequently day dreaming and miss it altogether.

Prime news at 5.30 is very good and to the point - all wrapped up in 30m.

When I have been overseas in Europe or Aussie I have been impressed they keep the news to about 30m. Usually lots of local stuff then the important international stuff.

We have very little happening here (we are only a small country after all) so seem to have to pad with lots of overseas junk that isnt that interesting. I mean really... Some girl goes running off with her teacher in the UK and it makes the headlines here - why????

I think the fact they have such long news slots is also the reason we seem to have so much gloomy news as well - we drag out bad stuff forever.

At least there is the internet!

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#692342 27-Sep-2012 16:26

Really they should leverage PVRs and allow for skipping of stories etc, update it during the day to allow you to play all the news you give a toss about only etc. Otherwise they will just slowly lose out to the internet and be irrelevent to most people. Like they are already half way to being.

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#692360 27-Sep-2012 17:05

KiwiNZ: Look around your city, not everyone can afford Computers and Internet plans etc. I live in an affluent area and I have neighbours who cannot afford the internet.

Oh, ok. I must be very out of touch. I don't know anyone who hasn't got the net on their phones these days.

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#692361 27-Sep-2012 17:09

As for the topic, I find red on tv hard to watch, and I actually quite like Campbell Live.

I know some of you will hate on me for that, but I have found the coverage of Christchurch quite interesting. Yes it comes with all the hallmarks of that sort of TV, but that team to present a fairly balanced picture.

The series on child poverty this week has been very interesting.

Less and less about TVNZ inspires me at all.

As for the PVR comment someone made, I'm with you on that one. I record news every night and we don't start watching until 6:30 most of the time.

I think we have to take some ownership and just use technology properly to get what we want and not rely on others to just spoon feed.

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#692537 27-Sep-2012 22:50

Apart from the occasional glimpse in someone else's living room I haven't watched anything on state television for 15 years so I can't comment on that side of things, but I have to say that I really enjoy Campbell Live. It has a good community feel to it, and I find most of the subject matter quite interesting.

The problem is that the trivial nature of 3News means that there isn't a clear enough distinction between TV3's serious news delivery versus their lightweight current affairs. I agree with others that 3News should probably be cut to 30 minutes perhaps with some or all of the sport separated out into a different programme, and they really need to stop having sport spilling over into the main bulletin.

thekiwi

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#692804 28-Sep-2012 10:56

DonGould:
KiwiNZ: Look around your city, not everyone can afford Computers and Internet plans etc. I live in an affluent area and I have neighbours who cannot afford the internet.

Oh, ok. I must be very out of touch. I don't know anyone who hasn't got the net on their phones these days.

Welcome to the rest of NZ! :)
Here on the coast, you'd easily find families/suburbs with no land lines and only a basic mobile phone ... no smart phone, no data, just a few calls and mainly texting.
For quite a few, any notion of internet access would be a luxury and you can forget any ideas of a computer in the home.

SOmetimes IT geeks can get a little separated from reality, especially white middle class ones (and I include myself in that grouping!

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#692822 28-Sep-2012 11:15

thekiwi:
DonGould:
KiwiNZ: Look around your city, not everyone can afford Computers and Internet plans etc. I live in an affluent area and I have neighbours who cannot afford the internet.

Oh, ok. I must be very out of touch. I don't know anyone who hasn't got the net on their phones these days.

Welcome to the rest of NZ! :)

This made me laugh. The requirement (in most locations outside of the main centres) to still have a phone line via Telecom/Vodafone etc on top of the internet plan really hurts. For me in Feilding a few years back, we got a $55 phone bill one month, of which just $5 were calls. Not every place has unbundled/naked plans yet, or if they do it's a mash of the two, not really a separation.

To many NZ'rs that base $600 charge to just be able to then go and purchase broadband is too much. Much like Sky TV's base $46 / $550 per annum base charge just to be able to buy sports etc is too much for many too.

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#692877 28-Sep-2012 13:08

KiwiNZ: I would prefer the news to be 1/2 hour National, i/2 hour International and the time slot used for Close up to be for Sport and regional news.

Regards,

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#693534 30-Sep-2012 08:01

Ever since the long slow drawn out demise of Holmes viewers have been expecting a similarly politically combative program to replace it. It is not going to happen.

TVNZ management has allowed politicians to make major policy announcements on breakfast TV with no sensible journalistic questioning or debate and is timid in the face of advertisers. The evening news is filled with reporters pointlessly chasing whatever moving object they have been assigned that day.

It looks like TVNZ is planning to fill the 7pm slot with something along the lines of breakfast TV as well:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10837306

TV3 has a real opportunity and no shortage of genuine journalistic and investigative talent but they show no signs of investing in the robust platform their best people need for quality reporting or the innovation needed to market it.

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#693926 1-Oct-2012 10:04

I find television so uninteresting that after moving from Auckland to Leigh at the end of March this year we've left the television in its box. I couldn't justify paying good dollars for a satellite PVR to get freeview just so I could watch crappy reality tv shows and even crappier news.

Of an evening I read for entertainment and if I want to watch a movie I get a DVD out. I get my news on the internet which means I read what interests me and don't have to sit through all the fluff they call news.

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