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Topic # 123288 2-Jul-2013 12:21
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noticed last while watching tv1 that they have changed their channel bug.

it's now a very obvious 'one', plastered on the lower right of the screen.

not only is it much less transparent but it no longer carries any hd identifier, nor do their ad bumpers - unlike tv2.

a clear case of fixing something that wasn't broke in the first place.

idiots.

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  Reply # 848258 2-Jul-2013 14:22
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Why do these creeps even need a logo on the screen at all ? It's nasty, intrusive and totally unnecessary. It shows what idiots *WE* are for letting them get away with it.

The only thing I watch on TV now is the news - anything else is downloaded. They have logo's too of course and some are even worse. But many don't, or like itv, bbc are barely noticeable.




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  Reply # 848423 2-Jul-2013 21:50
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I have never seen the point of the logos myself.

It's not as if the saturation bombing of promos every seven minutes would ever let you forget which channel you are watching.

I can picture the Board meeting now. Oh dear. Tivo - badly executed and we lost $10 million+. Igloo partnership, badly executed and we flushed a few million more. We have rates that are stagnant, no real content, and due to our own incompetence we have a business model that we are congenitally unable to develop. What we need to fix all this is a new logo that's even more intrusive and irritating than the old one.

Idiots!

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  Reply # 848494 3-Jul-2013 07:25
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This looks ugly. Too big. The logo itself isn't bad but the DOG is awful. Also, during breakfast the logo magically moves up to the top right of the screen.

I think the only positive from this is that the ONE plus 1 logo does not look tacky. It looks like they were designed together now.




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Reply # 848497 3-Jul-2013 07:44
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Sometimes the logo is overpowering. Its not in the ads though.  The answer is simple, if you dont like it, dont watch TV1. Problem solved




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  Reply # 848498 3-Jul-2013 07:49
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Gilco2: Its not in the ads though.

The only time that you can't already determine the channel based on the content, they get rid of the logo. I've found that stupid since the analogue days!

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  Reply # 848545 3-Jul-2013 09:11
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ilovemusic: noticed last while watching tv1 that they have changed their channel bug.

it's now a very obvious 'one', plastered on the lower right of the screen.

not only is it much less transparent but it no longer carries any hd identifier, nor do their ad bumpers - unlike tv2.

a clear case of fixing something that wasn't broke in the first place.

idiots.


Yeah, it's a little larger and a little less transparent. Doesn't seem like that big of a deal though tbh.






JimmyH: I have never seen the point of the logos myself.

Marketing, brand awareness/assocation. *shrug*


naggyman: This looks ugly. Too big. The logo itself isn't bad but the DOG is awful. Also, during breakfast the logo magically moves up to the top right of the screen.


Breakfast logo is top right because it would clash with the baseline graphics if it was bottom right. They can't be bothered reformatting baseline graphics to accommodate the bug, I suppose.

Not sure what you mean by DOG? Is it that bad?

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  Reply # 848771 3-Jul-2013 14:11
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> Doesn't seem like that big of a deal though tbh.

Do you remember TV before this - wasn't that long ago. Tv3 were the first, by quite some time.

> The answer is simple, if you dont like it, dont watch TV1

Or Tv2, or TV3, or anything else. So why buy a TV apart from using it as a monitor ?

If they MUST have one, there should be some legal restriction on the size, transparency etc. and most certainly no animation.




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  Reply # 848778 3-Jul-2013 14:27
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ADKM: > Doesn't seem like that big of a deal though tbh.

Do you remember TV before this - wasn't that long ago. Tv3 were the first, by quite some time.


Yeah, I do remember such a time. I'm still not really fussed about it though. I mean, it would be nice if it were a little smaller and a little clearer, but it's not keeping me up at night.

I reckon if anybody is having a really hard time with the bug, maybe they could let TVNZ know and see how they respond?



ADKM: If they MUST have one, there should be some legal restriction on the size, transparency etc. and most certainly no animation.


Really? You think parliament should waste time legislating for how broadcasters market themselves in the corner of the screen? Boy, that sure is nanny state.

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  Reply # 848787 3-Jul-2013 14:41
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LetTVNZknow? I'm sure they do - they put it there!

>You think parliament should waste time legislating for how broadcasters market themselves in the corner of the screen? Boy, that sure is nanny state.

Not sure what you mean - improving something to make it better is somehow bad ?
Of course it isn't how broadcasters market themselves - its about one's right to enjoy and use something they own without unnecessary intrusion and annoyance. A futile hope of course, but I'm still gonna say it !




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Reply # 848794 3-Jul-2013 14:56
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ADKM:
LetTVNZknow? I'm sure they do - they put it there!


Obviously the intention is that you let them know that you are annoyed by the bug - not to let them know it's there. BUt I guess you can just whine on the internet instead of being proactive, right?

>You think parliament should waste time legislating for how broadcasters market themselves in the corner of the screen? Boy, that sure is nanny state.


ADKM:Not sure what you mean - improving something to make it better is somehow bad ?


It's quite a subjective thing, these bugs. It's only your opinion that it would be an improvement to remove the bug. Let's not go treating your subjective opinion as fact.



ADKM:Of course it isn't how broadcasters market themselves - its about one's right to enjoy and use something they own without unnecessary intrusion and annoyance. A futile hope of course, but I'm still gonna say it !


I'm afraid you don't have the right to direct TVNZ to do as you please.



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  Reply # 848839 3-Jul-2013 16:05
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DOG - Digital Onscreen Graphic. The term is kinda common in the UK whilest complaining against the BBC. I am not british so I am not sure how I picked that up.




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  Reply # 848841 3-Jul-2013 16:10
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Cheers naggyman, had only ever heard it referred to as 'bug' or 'watermark' :)

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  Reply # 848849 3-Jul-2013 16:30
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Isn't it a merge between he old logo from the 70's, and the previous logo? Looks very similar, especially when it initially has the outlines and fills in. I think all the new graphics look really dated. Wonder if it was done inhouse.

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  Reply # 848901 3-Jul-2013 18:53
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Journeyman: Cheers naggyman, had only ever heard it referred to as 'bug' or 'watermark' :)


Commonly called a "bug" in the US..




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