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Topic # 127415 9-Aug-2013 12:14
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I recently made the decision to cancel my Sky subscription. The loss of the EPL was the final straw for me and I could no longer see the value in it.

I decided to go with a DishTV 7090PVR as I wanted a PVR and a unit that could upscale to simplify things on my networked A/V setup.

Out of the box the unit is reasonably small and light, certainly a lot smaller than the mySky unit it replaced. Build quality appeared OK but no better, pretty much par for the course for satellite freeview units.

I plugged it in and it ran fine through my HDMI matrix and HDMI Cat-6 extenders.

All channels were present and picture quality was good but not up to mySky standards but that is to be expected given Sky is broadcasting 1080.

The remote is reasonably well laid out and seemed pretty reasonable for the job.

Unfortunately the good news ends here.

I have had quite a few problems over the past 5-6 weeks with random channel drop outs, it appears to lose a transponder frequency so I can only view TVNZ. My signal quality is excellent and the dish/cables were only installed a year ago when the house was built.

Changing channels can sometimes take 2-3 seconds, this appears to come and go.

In fact all the problems I have had tend to come and go which is why i haven't talked to the DishTV tech department. I'd have an issue for an hour and then it would come right.

The UI is also no where near as easy to use as mySky, the PVR system can be a bit frustrating to use.

Last night I read here on Geekzone about the firmware update and thought great, this will hopefully make this unit a bit more stable. Pretty simple instructions to follow as well.

Load software onto USB stick. check. Remove power from the unit. Check. Insert USB key. Check. Hold Menu button down and plug power back in. Check. Wait until screen front display shows USB and release menu button..........

Unfortunately my unit never displayed anything, I actually held the Menu button down for a couple of minutes hoping something would work but alas no.

I now have a dead unit. I have spoken with DishTV and they have advised the firmware is corrupted and it will have to be sent back. No TV for a week, maybe not a bad thing although my wife is not impressed.

It could just be my unit and I know there have been a few others who have posted about problems but there are also others who seem happy with their units so it may be a case of luck of the draw.

If you expecting a top quality satellite PVR that offers similar performance to mySky you are going to be disappointed.

It is one of the cheapest PVR's that come with an internal hard drive though so if you don't mind a few glitches and possibly quite a few hair pulling moments you may be perfectly happy.

I will update when my unit has been returned to see if performance has improved at all.

The only other thing to note is DishTV sell refurbished units on their website. Now why this can mean you can save a few dollars it also means they have enough units returned for either unit failure or customer problems? Buyer beware. 



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  Reply # 874554 9-Aug-2013 13:40
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It's my experience that many of the non major name products are simply sourced out of a bulk china type manufacturer/supplier and with some local input to get it regionally compatible.

Put another way, they're not that good. Namely around the interface, often with cheap generic remotes (why do they all look the same and with tiny writing?!). My main gripe is the menu structures etc, which are usually an annoying afterthought to the designers.

Anyway, satellite is a smaller market now with most TV's etc using the freeview HD service. It's annoying as satellite has been around for many years, so you'd think these units would be more refined than they are. Satellite gear requires more grunty power supplies than terrestrial (having LNB's to power etc) so it is likely to cost more than a terrestrial equivalent.

I think you're seeing the difference between a technically capable box and one that's been polished to deliver an easy and enjoyable user experience. Unfortunately much of the equipment available for freeview is not very good.



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  Reply # 874562 9-Aug-2013 13:45
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Jaxson: It's my experience that many of the non major name products are simply sourced out of a bulk china type manufacturer/supplier and with some local input to get it regionally compatible.

Put another way, they're not that good. Namely around the interface, often with cheap generic remotes (why do they all look the same and with tiny writing?!). My main gripe is the menu structures etc, which are usually an annoying afterthought to the designers.

Anyway, satellite is a smaller market now with most TV's etc using the freeview HD service. It's annoying as satellite has been around for many years, so you'd think these units would be more refined than they are. Satellite gear requires more grunty power supplies than terrestrial (having LNB's to power etc) so it is likely to cost more than a terrestrial equivalent.

I think you're seeing the difference between a technically capable box and one that's been polished to deliver an easy and enjoyable user experience. Unfortunately much of the equipment available for freeview is not very good.


I think you may be right. Unfortunately Freeview HD is not available down this way.

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Reply # 874609 9-Aug-2013 14:54
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what firmware have you got.  The only problem i have had is remote stopped working but could still operate it on unit.  Ended up DishTV replacing the front panel on the unit. That was July last year.  I am running firmware v1.4c I think it is.  Havent updated to the version 1.5 since the unit is faultless.  Had none of the problems you have.  Never get rain fade since dish replaced over year ago. Really love this unit




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  Reply # 874634 9-Aug-2013 15:32
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I got one for my mother in Law, not technically minded at all, but she picked it up really quick.
I'm pretty sure it's given her no problems (I would have heard if it had).

DishTV are based in Hamilton I think, and as far as I know (anecdotal) they are very good with service and support.

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  Reply # 874644 9-Aug-2013 15:57
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marmel:

I think you may be right. Unfortunately Freeview HD is not available down this way.


Yeah my parents are in Whanganui and in the 'shade' of a hill that prevents them receiving freeview HD.

I've just recently sorted them out with a freeview approved satellite PVR and everything is going ok.
Things like the remote etc just annoy the crap out of me as all the labels are tiny and the commonly used buttons aren't located very sensibly etc.

There are some good units out there, it's not all bad, but there's a lot of rubbish and freeview have been pretty hands off getting involved in any issues users have had.
Freeview have their logo on the front, and the units have all passed freeview's inspection regieme to become freeview approved, so I would have thought they'd give more of a damn from a brand perspective at least.  However being freeview approved is quite limited to specific aspects and doesn't guarantee the non freeview related components such as menu structures/how you located previously recorded shows etc is presented or handled by the unit etc.


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My experience is the same as Gilco. Had the 1.4c firmware since April last year without a problem at all. Have upgraded to latest and it has some minor improvements. I have been recommending the unit to others who are quitting Sky!!



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  Reply # 880923 19-Aug-2013 11:26
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Had my unit returned today, faulty solder point near the power supply apparently.

Also if you do have any issues, make sure you phone instead of using email. The email I sent wasn't responded to for about 5 days (inc the weekend).

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  Reply # 880943 19-Aug-2013 12:01
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marmel: Had my unit returned today, faulty solder point near the power supply apparently.

Also if you do have any issues, make sure you phone instead of using email. The email I sent wasn't responded to for about 5 days (inc the weekend).
A year ago with mine and then christmas with a dishtv 1050 unit I sent email in both cases. email responded to within 2 hours. Was pleased with response time from them.




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  Reply # 884113 25-Aug-2013 08:21
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Not surprisingly this piece of crap has decided to give up once again. Same symptoms as last time, dropped off one responder, couldn't select things from the menu, recording function not working.

I'm actually starting to think the hard drive may be faulty as I had it set up to record what now for the kids whilst I watch the yachting. Same thing happened as last time, recording shows as recording but the timer sticks on zero as though it hasn't started. If I go into the library menu it can't be deleted.

I'm taking it back to place of purchase today, in all I have actually used it for two weeks and it has failed twice in that time.

As per my original advice unless you want to take the gamble of getting a good one steer clear of DishTV.

Thankfully I have a back up device to use now, a $40 el cheapo off trademe which hasn't missed a beat in a couple of years I have used it off and on.

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