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  # 1057139 31-May-2014 16:41
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mattwnz:
nigelj: 

Edit:  I completely agree on HD though, they keep going on about how they are going to bring back 'Fast FOUR' but you can't take that seriously when they are still screening stuff in SD-only.


Wonder how it is going to cope with UHD. There is really no excuse for still broadcasting in SD, although I can't see prime moving to HD.


Both Prime and Mediaworks had some luck due to the move of the shopping channels etc to the new mux that Apna debuted on, freeing up some bandwidth towards a potential HD channel for both Prime and Four which could both use some HD love, Prime now especially due to the 'take me seriously, we just acquired Fox and new CBS studio content' attitude, although I'm not a fan of most of those shows, I'd be shocked if Under The Dome for instance looks anything but garbage in Prime's rendition of SD compared to the original HD broadcasts (or even SD broadcasts) in America.

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  # 1057180 31-May-2014 18:51
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I don't think a +1 would do much for FOUR's ratings especially as it will be outside the single digit remote control space. Viewership for the other +1 channels averages not much more than 5% of the corresponding main channels.
http://www.throng.co.nz/2014/05/tv-ratings-30-may-2014/

But FOUR does have the most horrible, intrusive channel logo, standard definition and the bad audio quality of the non Dolby channels. If they switched to 720p, added Dolby and got an unobtrusive channel logo, they would get better ratings. FOUR is aimed at the demographic with the best access to HD TV downloads and the most willingness to do it. If I was a pirate, why would I want to put up with weak picture, bad sound and FOUR pushed at me the whole time?

I watched an old recording with One|HD in the corner and it was so much better than the huge ONE they have now.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1057186 31-May-2014 19:05
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I don't get the huge logos either - they seem to have marketing departments that work on the basis of the best way to retail viewers is to make the experience as annoying as possible. Sadly, while a DVR can deal with the loud shouty promos, it means we are still stuck with the pointless intrusive logos. Just out of interest, I keep meaning to use my laptop to experiment with a HTPC configuration (I have a USB tuner somewhere). I have always wondered how well some of the de-logoing filters you can get to automatically process the recorded videos on PCs work in practice.

Personally, I'm kind of indifferent to the +1 channels. Yes they are stupid, silly and needlessly waste scarce bandwidth. However, given that the only thing I am currently watching on Freeview at all is House of Cards, I doubt I will notice in practice. Off the top of my head, I can't even name a single show on either Four (soon to have +1) or C4 (being discontinued to enable it). FV is already so dire, I doubt there is much more they could do to make it worse.

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  # 1057203 31-May-2014 20:23
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1080 webrip FTW - plus one can stick it with the lower quality picture and sound they have.




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  # 1059236 4-Jun-2014 16:19
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At least, the picture quality of FOUR+1 will be the same as FOUR (I think). Gives a little more flexibility in recording if there are overlaps etc.

I've already swapped channel 9 with channel 40 - which you can do on a Panasonic - because I want one key access to CTV. Incidentally, I've also swapped 5 with 10, so I can have easy access to Prime since I hardly ever watch Maori (exceptions: Firefly, occasional movies and documentaries).

But getting back to the subject at hand, I've argued for a while that a +2 channels would be more beneficial than +1, at least during daylight savings duration.

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  # 1059268 4-Jun-2014 17:59
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one of the reason some shows are not HD, is the media companys charge more for HD rights over SD and if you want it in HD and rights to air it soon after US showing - then that big $$ and you can only get access to it after it shown in US, so you need a big pipe to download it in time to get it ready to be broadcast.

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  # 1059274 4-Jun-2014 18:12
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One of the latest Throng articles claims that The Edge will be starting on Channel 11 on June 27th. Something is wrong here. Perhaps FOUR+1 will be on channel 9 after all, which would be more logical.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1059280 4-Jun-2014 18:28
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RustyViewer: One of the latest Throng articles claims that The Edge will be starting on Channel 11 on June 27th. Something is wrong here. Perhaps FOUR+1 will be on channel 9 after all, which would be more logical.

see here http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=83&topicid=143324
It's replacing C4




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  # 1059281 4-Jun-2014 18:29
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bagheera: one of the reason some shows are not HD, is the media companys charge more for HD rights over SD and if you want it in HD and rights to air it soon after US showing - then that big $$ and you can only get access to it after it shown in US, so you need a big pipe to download it in time to get it ready to be broadcast.


No it's not.

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  # 1059283 4-Jun-2014 18:32
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I would be happier if they didn't munge the frame rate and scale things slightly. Broadcast tv in nz just looks awful even in "hd" with lots of visible artifacts.




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  # 1059431 4-Jun-2014 22:13

richms: I would be happier if they didn't munge the frame rate and scale things slightly. Broadcast tv in nz just looks awful even in "hd" with lots of visible artifacts.


Can't say I've noticed this on HD broadcasts here. Care to elaborate on the frame rate and slight scaling thing? Sorry off topic though.

On topic: Does this mean mediaworks has more channels on freeview than tvnz?




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  # 1060369 6-Jun-2014 12:59
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I quite like +1 channels.  I travel a lot and as Murphy's law would have it I often miss the start of my favourite shows b y a small margin.  +1 means this doesn't matter.  I've never bought a DVR because we have DVB-T integrated into the TV.




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  # 1060422 6-Jun-2014 15:14
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     >I do find these channels useful, thou sometimes I wish there was a '-1' channel as well... :)<

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  # 1060423 6-Jun-2014 15:16
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I haven't done anything about getting a freeview recorder yet, so the +1 channels are useful if and when I watch TV.




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  # 1060434 6-Jun-2014 15:39
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MikeAqua: I quite like +1 channels.  I travel a lot and as Murphy's law would have it I often miss the start of my favourite shows b y a small margin.  +1 means this doesn't matter.  I've never bought a DVR because we have DVB-T integrated into the TV.


I'm the same. I hate clutter, and for me a DVR really isn't necessary and wouldn't get a lot of use.

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