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  Reply # 1204585 27-Dec-2014 17:55
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Good luck watching Sommet Sport, they shut down about 2 weeks ago. 



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  Reply # 1204586 27-Dec-2014 18:06
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sounds like freeview is turning to poop then and streaming tv is the way.

stilll feels odd having a tv and not having an aerial for it.

i seen a few used ones on TM.

im in a very likely zone but im not sure how to tell how far from transmission i am to see if internal aerial will work.

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  Reply # 1204611 27-Dec-2014 18:58
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http://www.matchmaster.net.nz/EnterRequest.aspx




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  Reply # 1204624 27-Dec-2014 20:00
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(unlikely, but if you have line of sight between a lounge window and the transmission tower an indoor antenna will work)



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  Reply # 1204828 28-Dec-2014 11:39
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i dont know what a transmission tower looks like? we are just at the top of a bowl which is maybe why everyone has sat dishes. except neighbour has a small high def aerial, the smallest one from the warehouse i think.

is there a map showing where transmission towers are located? the freeview website coverage says we VERY LIKELY have uhf, but just seems odd most neighbours have a dish.

also dont want to spend too much as its not our house.

we have a brand new looking old school aerial, can they be converted for uhf digital? they must have put that on just before digital came in as its a classy looking aerial, wasted.

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  Reply # 1204834 28-Dec-2014 12:00
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TeaLeaf: i dont know what a transmission tower looks like, we are just at the top of a bowl which is maybe why everyone has sat dishes. except neighbour has a small high def aerial, the smallest one from the warehouse i think.

also dont want to spend too much as its not our house.

we have a brand new looking old school aerial, can they be converted for uhf digital? they must have put that on just before digital came in as its a classy looking aerial, wasted.


The matchmaster link I posted above will provide recommended antenna, distance to tower, signal strength at antenna (if you type in your address). Or just post the street and we'll provide an educated guess at likelihood of indoor working and tell you where the tower is.

Note: Any antenna installed in the last 15 years is most likely both VHF and UHF. If indeed it is VHF only, if you can't pick up any UHF off it then an indoor would never work anyway. It could be that the antenna has a masthead or distribution amp and the power supply has been removed in which case you would get nothing in UHF band.




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  Reply # 1204839 28-Dec-2014 12:16
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yeah i went to that site, it recommended the flat looking antenna Antenna UHF(27-50) Phased Array 'F' Type

this is what it says under transmitter details

 

Highest Frequency Signal: 67 dBuV, Digital Channels:29 31 33 35 37 45

 

Distance: 40.5km

it says under parts selections "The signal from the transmitter is obstructed by hilly terrain"

that all gives me a very different picture in my head than "VERY LIKELY" from freeview.

got that sinking feeling in my stomach, buyers remorse, i dont want to buy a sat freeview receiver knowing i got HD in my beautiful tv and i dont want to spend $100 on an aerial.

should have done some more home work before purchasing, but still got that horrible buyers remorse.



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  Reply # 1204844 28-Dec-2014 12:27
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i dont know why it chose that transmitter when there is one 6km away, but yes our little bowl lip blocks line off site.

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  Reply # 1204846 28-Dec-2014 12:37
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Looks like its time to hire a pro

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  Reply # 1204847 28-Dec-2014 12:37
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Looks like its time to hire a pro



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  Reply # 1204866 28-Dec-2014 12:41
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the way i see it i have 3 options

1) Buy a sat receiver and watch standard def
2) buy a used standard UHF antenna and cross fingers
3) spend $100 and get the recommended antenna and cross fingers.

The AV43XU seems to be the cheapest standard HD aerial.



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  Reply # 1204869 28-Dec-2014 12:55
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How is gain measured, is the higher the DB number mean its likely to pick up signal more?

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  Reply # 1204885 28-Dec-2014 13:13
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yes



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  Reply # 1204887 28-Dec-2014 13:19
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awesome.

well its either this one

http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/large-phased-array-aerial-freeview-p-595.html

or

http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/large-triple-folding-structure-aerial-freeview-p-594.html

both are low fringe are aerials.

i think ill wait until one pops up on trademe and give it a crack. the second one can be had for $60 on TM. but matchmaster recommended the first one.

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  Reply # 1204900 28-Dec-2014 13:55
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A long time ago I started a thread here about my efforts to receive HD UHF at a rural hilly location with no line of sight (http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=83&topicid=83095). You might want to take a look at it. I chose a particular aerial type after research indicated that it offered the highest gain for the lowest price. I had to elevate it on a long mast to reach a point where I had good reception with no pixelation but in the end it worked perfectly and still does after multiple years. What I found from my experience is that line of sight is not strictly necessary as even UHF frequencies will bend a little and reflect back. I don't have a UHF TV, just a cheap no-name Chinese STB that has all kinds of weird quirks and inconsistencies, but still does a perfect job of receiving HD TV with surround sound to the extremely limited extent our shonky broadcasters actually transmit it.

 





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