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  Reply # 1557760 23-May-2016 09:52
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Has anyone ever copied files off a DishTV box and got them to play on a computer?  Copied SATA->USB and got a selection of .mpg and .txt files, which I was very complimentary of when I saw them - but out of four shows, VLC (on linux) or Windows Media player could play only one. The others -- WMP just locked up, VLC said "TS Discontinuity".  mplayer can't read it.

 

The show that worked was recorded off Prime;  the ones that didn't were TV One .. so I suspect codec/muxing differences, perhaps SD vs HD broadcast (they're actually very different stream formats).  Or is this copy protection of some kind? <big sigh>

 

Playing them is a very important part of salvaging recorded shows on this possibly-dying T2200.

 

(More info, Prime show was h264 MPEG-4, audio AAC .. standard stuff;  None of my programs can work out what codec to use on the TV1 shows).


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  Reply # 1557809 23-May-2016 10:58
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nicfamily:

 

Has anyone ever copied files off a DishTV box and got them to play on a computer?  Copied SATA->USB and got a selection of .mpg and .txt files, which I was very complimentary of when I saw them - but out of four shows, VLC (on linux) or Windows Media player could play only one. The others -- WMP just locked up, VLC said "TS Discontinuity".  mplayer can't read it.

 

The show that worked was recorded off Prime;  the ones that didn't were TV One .. so I suspect codec/muxing differences, perhaps SD vs HD broadcast (they're actually very different stream formats).  Or is this copy protection of some kind? <big sigh>

 

Playing them is a very important part of salvaging recorded shows on this possibly-dying T2200.

 

(More info, Prime show was h264 MPEG-4, audio AAC .. standard stuff;  None of my programs can work out what codec to use on the TV1 shows).

 

 

AFAIK, only SD recordings can be played on a different device, I believe HD recordings are copy protected/encrypted to only be played on the device they were recorded on.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1557828 23-May-2016 11:11
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With 1tb storage I have never had the need

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  Reply # 1557894 23-May-2016 12:20
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hfkiwi:

 

AFAIK, only SD recordings can be played on a different device, I believe HD recordings are copy protected/encrypted to only be played on the device they were recorded on.

 

 

That makes sense.  I guess it should be able to read off the external USB, after all the box itself is booting and everything. Just means it is not going back on a warranty return before the shows get watched.


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  Reply # 1557897 23-May-2016 12:29
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I have a 7090 and have pulled both SD and HD programs of it (it is on a boat) and played them at home on my HTPC in SageTV


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  Reply # 1557901 23-May-2016 12:37
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Incidentally people are actively recommending against DishTV on these forums and elsewhere. I really wanted to support this, NZ company and everything, but the quality isn't there.  So I look for possible alternatives and MTV3700TD* looks like the feature set I want ... guess who distributes that in NZ ....

 

(* assuming it can still be purchased, it's been around a few years)


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  Reply # 1557907 23-May-2016 12:49
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Just BTW, my experience of DishTV's ability to fix software issues on the 7090 (over tha last few years) very much reflects what is being cited in this thread. I don't think they have software control "onshore" and I suspect that the boxes are made for multiple markets and DuishTv is merely a purchaser and has little real control over the implimentation of new features or the time taken to fix bugs.

 

 

 

The 7090 was supposed to be able to take a CAM and NZ Sky card but this never worked properly and in the finish I gave up after a couple of years of "fixes" reimplementing old problems, and installed a completely seperate box to do the Sky part! They were good enough to refund what I had paid them for the CAM module however, which kind of confirmed they had also given up on the offshore developers ability to fix the NZ based problem even though I was certain it related to EMMs and told them so.


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  Reply # 1558493 24-May-2016 10:14
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off shore is actually india fyi 

 

 

 

im not unhappy with the box and the progress in this case ,  i wish we could turn off auto updates and pick the update version we want in future.  i stopped updating mtv3600 at 3.18 

 

i dont even bother using it for half it features as i can plug an hdd into my tv to watch my own films , all i want is solid recording and playback .. we are close in that regard. 

 

 

 

its better than the mtv3600 for my needs and priorities and is looking like it will pay for itself over its life time in power savings alone.   we arent there yet though.  they just better not release the next box for another 6 months 


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  Reply # 1558503 24-May-2016 10:33
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Jimmy22:

 

im not unhappy with the box and the progress in this case ,  i wish we could turn off auto updates and pick the update version we want in future.  

 

 

And that's what I want more than anything, the ability to downgrade the firmware and not have it automatically update its self.

 

I do understand that you want a box that's been sitting on a shelf for a year to get an update, and that will do it automatically first time its booted up. But if the current firmware is not stable (and it did happen on 1.25 or 1.26) then the more tech savvy people would want to downgrade to a better known working version. those not tech savvy would just hang out till a working on or just switch off auto updates.

 

To me that's a fundamental must at the moment.

 

I honestly have no major issues with the box, and I will quiet happily keep using it, there are just a few little annoying things that pop up every once in a while which I can live with at this stage.


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  Reply # 1558981 24-May-2016 22:08
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After having used the T2200 for 3 weeks, still having trouble with the inability to fast forward on a couple of TV3 shows (e.g NCIS). Screen goes black and audio continues. Position indicator shows progress stuck at beginning of recording when this bug strikes. Have to remove power plug and re-insert to get it to reboot - not sure what risks to the file system there are there!

I bought this to replace my Panasonic. I will be returning the T2200 on the weekend for another Panasonic - unless someone can help please?

Being forced to watch ads and suffer reboots having to recycle power is not why I bought this unit. Bottom line is: please get the basics right. You do not have a minimum viable product.

Also, white-on-light-green is not a clever colour choice for readability when entering text. Fushcia is a bit better, but emasculating ;)






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  Reply # 1559247 25-May-2016 11:13
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the freeze issue was an introduced bug so it hasnt been there since day one .  FFd is now pretty good as far as speed goes , it used to be choppy in previous iterations, but then this freeze bug appeared to replace it .

 

its actually the only thing on my personal list , the rest i can live with/with out .  The worst part for me is they said they fixed it on the last update, but they didnt , hopefully its still on the list in India. 


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  Reply # 1559252 25-May-2016 11:25
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  Reply # 1559262 25-May-2016 11:41
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ive never really had the freeze issue on mine


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  Reply # 1559265 25-May-2016 11:50
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From what I can tell you have to be ffw or rrw, while recording one or possibly two channels , and it needs to be in or near the overlap between recording another one or two programs..e.g. 825 pm where you have a couple finishing and a couple starting up and you are effectively recording 4 channels and playing back at the same time off 2 Mux.

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  Reply # 1559275 25-May-2016 12:00
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Jimmy22: From what I can tell you have to be ffw or rrw, ... effectively recording 4 channels and playing back at the same time off 2 Mux.

 

(T2200:) Not that complicated to get problems with rewind.  It goes back jerkily and then just stops rewinding at all.  However I wouldn't call that a freeze as we can stop playback and start again.  I suspect, but could be wrong, that the problem here is related to the files on the hard disk, not what is going on channel-wise. (I can believe the overlap thing as a cause though)

 

There was a problem we had with the machine stopping reacting to anything on the remote but the power button, broken recordings et al  - this could have been related to recordings starting or finishing, but this hasn't happend on recent software. However it may also be that several problems went away when we started using a Harmony remote. 


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