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Wannabe Geek

#192303 5-Mar-2016 20:07
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I'm having a nightmare with my freeview setup.


I established that I needed the Freeview Sattelite box after finding out that Hataitai, Wellington was not in the HD coverage region. Luckily the tenant in the apartment before us had Sky set up so after some searching I read that I was able to simply use the Sky sattelite dish for freeview so i purchased the Freeview Sattelite (Transonic version). 


Now in my apartment there are two wires coming into the house. Both are sattelite cables as they are the screw needle connections (i think called coaxial) one of these wires is connected to a Kingray TV amp that is plugged into the power socket with another coxial wire from the amp to nothing (see picture) this is what i assume is to be connected to FV Sat receiver. The other coxial wire coming from outside (black) is on its own. See photos.





Now I have connected both these wires (individually) into the receiver and done a scan (from initial setup and after factory restoring) and not only do no channels get picked up but the Strength appears 0% as does the Quality. 


I have done a full day of researching what i could possibly have done wrong but nothing seems to be working. I found a thread discussing the sattelite dish could potentially be set to the Sky LNB frequency but even changing the frequency does not pick up anything. 


My neighbours keep to themselves so Im thinking thats my last option to go door knocking


PLEASE HELP. I'ts also saturday and no freeview or dishtv or Transonic supplier is open to talk to meee



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Uber Geek

  #1506605 5-Mar-2016 20:31
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Those connectors are called f connectors. They can and are used for non satellite signals, so don't assume there is a dish.

Have you checked outside to see if there is a dish? It's more likely a terrestrial uhf antenna if there's an amp connected. Do you have built in Freeview hd on your tv to try that?

If there is a dish, use the cable that doesn't go through the amp. Tell us what lnb settings you have used so we can check

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Wannabe Geek

  #1506619 5-Mar-2016 20:51
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There's definitely a satellite dish which services the entire apartment block (i think) out there I can see it from my balcony (its directly below) and I can visually trace one of my f connectors to it- the one connected to the white adapter. The other f connector (black one) is going up to the roof and I walked out to the other side of street today to see if there's anything up there and there is a really big aerial up there lying horizontally. 


After i did a location search i found that my place in not in the uhf aerial zone for freeview hd so had no choice but to use satellite. 


The scan details ive been trialling are in the photo here LNB low and high at 11300 (as recommended by FV site)





I have also gone through each satellite setting and the strength and quality for each remains at 0%


Side dumb question- Am i right to be putting in the f connector from outside into the "LNB Input" of the receiver box and for there to be nothing in the socket of the "LNB out"? 


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Wannabe Geek

  #1506620 5-Mar-2016 20:53
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Also there is not built in freeview in my tv. 

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  #1506622 5-Mar-2016 21:19
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Start by turning off the 22 kHz. And experiment with 10750 MHz.


Note: Those amplifiers are NOT designed for L band DVB-S signals, they are VHF/UHF and connect to a terrestrial antenna.

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  #1506640 5-Mar-2016 22:12
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Judging from your picture I would guess the white lead from the Kingray Amp is UHF and needs to be plugged into a Freeview TV or a UHF STB.


The black lead will be the Satellite Dish lead. Satellite dishes don't need an amplifier in the co-ax line and the Kingray amps are normally VHF/UHF.

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  #1506689 5-Mar-2016 23:58
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You are right to use the lnb input. The other is just a pass through. It is possible, as B1GGLZ suggests, that the previous occupant had UHF TV even if it is not officially in the reception area. Maybe that is what the amplifier was for. It is also possible that is an old VHF installation. The big aerial on the roof that you describe might have been for VHF. 



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Master Geek

  #1506749 6-Mar-2016 08:30
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As suggested by the OP switching off the 22 Khz tone may help if your dish/lnb looks like the attached photo of a Sky 10750Mhz


LNB. Unfortunately these LNBs had a tendency to drift off frequency (the LO frequency in the drop-down list in your screenshot) so maybe


try setting 10700 Mhz and re-scanning if 10750 doesn't work for you.



Hopefully the image works, first time I have tried this.




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  #1506777 6-Mar-2016 10:23
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In your settings try:




LNB Lo: 10750


LNB Hi: 10750


22kHz: Off


LNB Power: Off


DiSEqC: Off


Some distribution systems in apartments don't need LNB power supplied - generally this is on, but some buildings may require it off.


22kHz should always be off, as should DiSEqC


LNB Hi & Lo should be the same, and depend on the LNB installed on the dish. 10750, 11300, 10700 are the most common, from most to least common.

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Wannabe Geek

  #1506818 6-Mar-2016 11:32
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RunningMan your settings worked its magic!!
Thank you all for your help!

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