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  # 132587 22-May-2008 18:08
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And I have to say Windows Media Center looks nicer...


Cant argue with that :)



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  # 132593 22-May-2008 18:28
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To answer a couple of questions:

To the best of my knowledge NZ wasn't included in the BETA group.  You can work the rest out... And yes its not that hard to find.

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DVB-S - it gives you out of the box, the functionality that you previously had to use registry mods, and external guide captures to get.

IMO its not as stable as a modified DVB-S setup (which in my experience is rock solid).  It is a BETA after all, however the funtionality/ease of setup is very good, even at this early stage.  The guide works well, with 7 days worth of data captured from the EIT stream.

NZ channel support is still manual ie you must scan individual transponders (some interesting things in the default channels...), but this is very easy to do ie can be done from the couch and takes a couple of minutes.  Guide setup is automatic.  Channel organisation is improved, although you need to get rid of the aussie channels first.  I also believe it has the hooks in it to support external card readers ie US DIRECTV support, although I cant test this at the moment.

Teletext works a treat.

DVB-T - looks well on its way but is very flakey at the moment.  There appears to be an issue with the screen blanking - it looks like something to do with the MHEG data.  Not lounge ready at the moment, but looks like it will do the job in a few months.  Both video and sound work with the PowerDVD codecs.

It looks to have embedded MHEG support - but its to early to say what it will do.

It has embedded multi tuner support - which is easy to configure.

No HDDVD and I doubt Bluray - although I don't got no Bluray drive at the moment...

Theres a few other tweaks to the DVD player, and some interface revisions, but thats about it at the moment.




 
 
 
 


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  # 132665 22-May-2008 23:41
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right. fiji *is* nice at this time of the year.

one thing i notice that i really like is the '1 click and go to next line' when including/excluding channels in the guide.  little things like that are real nice.

I have a nvidia 6150 gpu and twin hauppauge nova-s cards and I must say i'm happy with the result.  I havent had a chance to try the dvbt yet.

teletext - wow, i might actually start using it again :-)




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  # 132738 23-May-2008 10:48

Ok, Fresh install of Ultimate last night.
Upgraded to SP1
Upgraded all drivers
Installed "update"

Pure DVB-T setup

MCE detected Dual DVB-T tuners, deteced and rejected PVR150 analouge tuner (guess it still only likes same type)
Scanned all TVNZ/MediaWorks/Kordia channels ok first time
EPG data populated through EIT (now/next only, no MHEG5 that I can see)
NO inbuilt h.264 decoder! Fresh install with nothing else installed will not display video, "Decoder not installed" is error - Fixed by installed PDVD8
Records video and plays back video with no problems, can record multiple streams at once (dual tuner works)
Live TV does NOT work as RustyGonad said above - Screen blanking issue. Will play for 5 secs then screen goes blank?? Have tried CoreAVC but same problem.

Funnily enough, if you turn Live TV on and go into the main menu again, TV plays fine in the background (with menu overlayed on top)..

All in all I was surprised to see it working this well.. still a fair way to go but hopes werent high as its only the first beta.

If only I could fix this screen blanking issue :P



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  # 132749 23-May-2008 11:09
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cranz: Ok, Fresh install of Ultimate last night.

If only I could fix this screen blanking issue :P


I found if you record whatever you want to watch - wait a few seconds and then play the recording it gets around the blanking issue.  Messy as could be - but hey its a BETA. :)

From what I can see its putting up a Black Screen - thinking its a Digital Text service ie it might be a blank Telext or MHEG display, which is misinterpreting the data.



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  # 132751 23-May-2008 11:16

Yeah thats how I was running it last night, chewed through space pretty quickly though ;)

I also noticed a lot of Digital Text errors popping up when trying to timeshift/record so could well be the problem with it trying to overlay Digital Text over video.. Surely we can turn this off somewhere? *has a hunt*



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  # 132759 23-May-2008 11:40
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cranz: Yeah thats how I was running it last night, chewed through space pretty quickly though ;)

I also noticed a lot of Digital Text errors popping up when trying to timeshift/record so could well be the problem with it trying to overlay Digital Text over video.. Surely we can turn this off somewhere? *has a hunt*


it may be something that can be adjusted with Country config files etc.  There appear to be MHEG hooks all the way through the install directories.  Tuning configs have changed heaps from the old version.

The DVB-S stuff is fairly obvious - its easy to see the OPTUS D1 files etc.

What country config did you use for tuning?  ie I used Norway...

 
 
 
 


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  # 132760 23-May-2008 11:42

I used UK (with the example postcode lol).

Haven't had a play with any configs yet - will try later tonight

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  # 132799 23-May-2008 14:32
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cranz: I used UK (with the example postcode lol).

Haven't had a play with any configs yet - will try later tonight


Hi Cranz

Does power DVD 8 sort out the AAC sound also? I will be trying this tonight!! So far I have a picture ok with tinyUSB2 from digitalnow in Oz. I will try my HVR900 usb stick tonight.

Cheers

Warren

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Master Geek


  # 132801 23-May-2008 14:35
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Is Power DVD 8 required?  I'm planning on trying this in the weekend but only have 7

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  # 132820 23-May-2008 15:52
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RustyGonad:The DVB-S stuff is fairly obvious - its easy to see the OPTUS D1 files etc.

What country config did you use for tuning?  ie I used Norway...


I know you're talking DVB-T in regards to that question.  For those who wonder about the DVB-S I can say that I used NZ for the country, 1000 as the postcode, optus d1 as the satellite (chose single sat rather than more than 1), manual osc freq.  Once completed I deleted all teh aussie channels and then manually scanned the two transponders freq's for freeview to get the nz channels on.  I did nothing with the guide - it just appeared.




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  # 132850 23-May-2008 18:13
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Did you have to change the default vista decoder. If so which utility did yu use and which cyberlink item did you choose. I can play files fine in cyberlink but get decoder error in VMC

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  # 132864 23-May-2008 19:31
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Very exciting

I had a live tv picture (with blanking as described) and with sound for about 10 minutes on my ASUS laptop. When they make this stable and if they add multi source (analogue/digital) tunig MCE will be spot on!

Nice to see that cyberlink hardware accelleration worked on the laptop too. 8% cpu on playback.

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  # 132996 24-May-2008 12:58

AceVPD: Is Power DVD 8 required?  I'm planning on trying this in the weekend but only have 7

Ace


Any h.264 decoder can be used, PowerDVD7 will work so will CoreAVC. I would recommend PowerDVD8 however if you wish to make the best use of onboard decoding on your graphics card as PDVD8 is far superior to PDVD7 in this respect

Both 7 & 8 will decode the AAC streams however I find that Cyberlink's AAC decoding sounds pretty bad compared with the likes of Monogram's AAC decoder.. However I haven't figured out how to make MCE/WMP use Monograms AAc decoder yet..

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# 133012 24-May-2008 14:20
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cranz:
AceVPD: Is Power DVD 8 required?  I'm planning on trying this in the weekend but only have 7

Ace


Any h.264 decoder can be used, PowerDVD7 will work so will CoreAVC. I would recommend PowerDVD8 however if you wish to make the best use of onboard decoding on your graphics card as PDVD8 is far superior to PDVD7 in this respect

Both 7 & 8 will decode the AAC streams however I find that Cyberlink's AAC decoding sounds pretty bad compared with the likes of Monogram's AAC decoder.. However I haven't figured out how to make MCE/WMP use Monograms AAc decoder yet..


Wait a minute... So there isn't a native H.264 decoder? We still need third party software for this?




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