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  Reply # 1972406 10-Mar-2018 16:35
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Apsattv:

 

Looking at the channel offering of Fetch Australia, They couldn't offer the same channels for starters

 

 

 

The variety package would probably lose

 

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Foxtel have most/some of those channels too... Sky probably/quite possibly (as foxtel are a bigger player than sky nz) has the same rights deal as foxtel.

 

 

 

I have a fetch. Found it when I was looking for a tivo replacement for the  in-laws. 

 

Bought one myself and dumped foxtel. 

 

 

 

Love the thing.

 

There's even rumours of a Plex app in the  future


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  Reply # 1972409 10-Mar-2018 16:44
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Did you get an Australian Fetch unit & does it work with NZ Freeview channels ?

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1972410 10-Mar-2018 16:46
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clive100:

 

Did you get an Australian Fetch unit & does it work with NZ Freeview channels ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I live in Oz now.


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  Reply # 1972413 10-Mar-2018 16:51
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Bugger ! Was hopeful for a minute there. 


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  Reply # 1972438 10-Mar-2018 16:57
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clive100:

 

Bugger ! Was hopeful for a minute there. 

 

 

It'll be well worth it if they release in NZ.


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  Reply # 1972446 10-Mar-2018 17:01
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ockel:

Apsattv:


Looking at the channel offering of Fetch Australia, They couldn't offer the same channels for starters


They could do the kid package without any changes


https://www.fetchtv.com.au/packages


and probably the Knowledge package


Spike would probably be gone from from the vibe package


The variety package would probably lose


BBC First
13th street
UKTV
SYFY
Universal
TV HITS
111 Funny


and sports would be mostly non exclusive filler channel like ESPN


Plus!7, TenPlay, ABC iVIEW, SBS On Demand and the STan service would also be gone


 


 



Doesnt TVNZ have Disney rights?  They took a whopping great write down for the contract but I dont think its lapsed, has it?  Do any other local streaming services have Disney content? 


And I'm guessing that you're assuming the Nickelodeon content on Lightbox is non-exclusive?



I assume Disney won't be renewing those rights as they are building an equivalent to Netflix for Disney content, I do not know what the worldwide release plans for this channel are it might be another reason for people to use region unlocking services for a while longer.

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  Reply # 1972454 10-Mar-2018 17:40
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epr:
ockel:

 

Apsattv:

 

 

 

Looking at the channel offering of Fetch Australia, They couldn't offer the same channels for starters

 

 

 

They could do the kid package without any changes

 

 

 

https://www.fetchtv.com.au/packages

 

 

 

and probably the Knowledge package

 

 

 

Spike would probably be gone from from the vibe package

 

 

 

The variety package would probably lose

 

 

 

BBC First
13th street
UKTV
SYFY
Universal
TV HITS
111 Funny

 

 

 

and sports would be mostly non exclusive filler channel like ESPN

 

 

 

Plus!7, TenPlay, ABC iVIEW, SBS On Demand and the STan service would also be gone

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Doesnt TVNZ have Disney rights?  They took a whopping great write down for the contract but I dont think its lapsed, has it?  Do any other local streaming services have Disney content? 

 

 

 

And I'm guessing that you're assuming the Nickelodeon content on Lightbox is non-exclusive?

 



I assume Disney won't be renewing those rights as they are building an equivalent to Netflix for Disney content, I do not know what the worldwide release plans for this channel are it might be another reason for people to use region unlocking services for a while longer.

 

So you think that the Disney content will disappear from Fetch's kids offering too??  

 

I think Disney will be a bit like HBO in releasing its offering on a market-by-market basis depending on the maximum opportunity.  At present Netflix reportedly pays something like $400m pa for the Disney content to be in its catalogue.  Disney obviously thinks that the US opportunity for its content is greater than that (including the opportunity cost of growing a competitors business).  Of course, like all content providers to Netflix, it has no idea how successful or otherwise its content has been being in the Netflix library.




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  Reply # 1972458 10-Mar-2018 17:59
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Could they be looking at an arrangement with one of the RSP's in NZ? Spark had a fail with the TiVo. Would they look at something like Fetch now? Maybe Vocus as Dodo sell Fetch in Aussie?


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  Reply # 1972459 10-Mar-2018 18:08
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epr:
ockel:


Apsattv:


 


Looking at the channel offering of Fetch Australia, They couldn't offer the same channels for starters


 


They could do the kid package without any changes


 


https://www.fetchtv.com.au/packages


 


and probably the Knowledge package


 


Spike would probably be gone from from the vibe package


 


The variety package would probably lose


 


BBC First
13th street
UKTV
SYFY
Universal
TV HITS
111 Funny


 


and sports would be mostly non exclusive filler channel like ESPN


 


Plus!7, TenPlay, ABC iVIEW, SBS On Demand and the STan service would also be gone


 


 


 


 


 



 


Doesnt TVNZ have Disney rights?  They took a whopping great write down for the contract but I dont think its lapsed, has it?  Do any other local streaming services have Disney content? 


 


And I'm guessing that you're assuming the Nickelodeon content on Lightbox is non-exclusive?




I assume Disney won't be renewing those rights as they are building an equivalent to Netflix for Disney content, I do not know what the worldwide release plans for this channel are it might be another reason for people to use region unlocking services for a while longer.


So you think that the Disney content will disappear from Fetch's kids offering too??  


I think Disney will be a bit like HBO in releasing its offering on a market-by-market basis depending on the maximum opportunity.  At present Netflix reportedly pays something like $400m pa for the Disney content to be in its catalogue.  Disney obviously thinks that the US opportunity for its content is greater than that (including the opportunity cost of growing a competitors business).  Of course, like all content providers to Netflix, it has no idea how successful or otherwise its content has been being in the Netflix library.



I think Disney is likely not thinking of America as it is small scale compared to the world 300 million people compared to 7+ billion even if only half have reliable internet access it leaves US for dead.

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  Reply # 1972508 10-Mar-2018 19:05
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Not surprised that Mr Fellet didn't want to comment...he knows he's got competition to worry about now.

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  Reply # 1972509 10-Mar-2018 19:13
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Could they be looking at an arrangement with one of the RSP's in NZ? Spark had a fail with the TiVo. Would they look at something like Fetch now? Maybe Vocus as Dodo sell Fetch in Aussie?

 

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure Fetch are trying to get out of the RSP-supplied arrangement here in Oz.. Too many issues with support and accounts. We have sooo many RSPs that churn is massive, and this is causing Fetch issues with second hand RSP-locked boxes sold on gumtree etc.


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  Reply # 1972510 10-Mar-2018 19:20
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For the love of peter people, don't quote 700 lines of text to add one line to the end!!!!

 

 


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  Reply # 1972513 10-Mar-2018 19:34
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I wonder if this is what really triggered the price drop - could be Sky found out about Fetch's plans and pre-empted, and then Fetch made a public announcement to try and slow down uptake of the new Sky prices until they launch here.

 

I think Fetch has a chance as they're not simply going head to head with Sky, they almost have a freemium model where first you buy the box to record freeview, and then you can pick and choose the tv or streaming you want to add to it.





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  Reply # 1972517 10-Mar-2018 19:42
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Sky has the ESPN rights for screening in NZ

 

 

I don't think SKY has Exclusive NZ rights to it. Also this is IPTV delivery vs satellite.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1972518 10-Mar-2018 19:54
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Linear channels delivered over IPTV+FTA channels over the terrestrial tuners with apps functionality.

 

A full package of around 37 iptv channels  would be about $25 NZ once you add in $ conversion and gst

 

its not a HUGE improvment over SKY's Starter pack. There's still plenty of crappy filler like Bloomberg, Fashion TV,  CGTN and Al Jazeera etc

 

 

 

 


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